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Most of Enterprise is pretty good. The online stigma is it gets good in S3 and S4 but there's just about as much good in S1 and S2. The idea that the series started getting better in quality was birthed online around S4 to really try and get trekkies back to keep the series from cancellation, and it's just stuck. It's really no better or worse than earlier seasons.

People were just fatigued with Star Trek at this point and ideas were running dry. They repeat some stories, but Enterprise does a real good job telling the most-refined versions of some classic Trek moral dilemmas. Dear Doctor and The Cogenitor are the two that come to mind the most. They've done these countless times but they're striking and poignant on Enterprise, hit every beat with precision, and its era helps lend to that as well.

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CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 12:38 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 9:30 am
Finished episode 1 of Enterprise yesterday and am definitely enjoying the premise of humans' first-ever starship mission into the cosmos.
If you're like me...you will struggle with some of the early episodes of Enterprise. But stick with it.

Edit to say that does not include the Enterprise Pilot; which I thought was very good.
The pilot was good. And while I appreciated the random "rub anti-protozoa oil on the hot Vulcan" scene, that was way too Cinemax for Trek.

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G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 12:51 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 12:38 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 9:30 am
Finished episode 1 of Enterprise yesterday and am definitely enjoying the premise of humans' first-ever starship mission into the cosmos.
If you're like me...you will struggle with some of the early episodes of Enterprise. But stick with it.

Edit to say that does not include the Enterprise Pilot; which I thought was very good.
The pilot was good. And while I appreciated the random "rub anti-protozoa oil on the hot Vulcan" scene, that was way too Cinemax for Trek.
The decontamination scenes never end.

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The only other place you'll see that much arguing while touching someone's butt is the office of andrew coumo.

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CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 2:07 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 12:51 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 12:38 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 9:30 am
Finished episode 1 of Enterprise yesterday and am definitely enjoying the premise of humans' first-ever starship mission into the cosmos.
If you're like me...you will struggle with some of the early episodes of Enterprise. But stick with it.

Edit to say that does not include the Enterprise Pilot; which I thought was very good.
The pilot was good. And while I appreciated the random "rub anti-protozoa oil on the hot Vulcan" scene, that was way too Cinemax for Trek.
The decontamination scenes never end.
Seriously? It would be such an out of place scene for TNG, DS9, or Voyager. The execs at CBS must have decided Enterprise needed more skin for ratings or something.

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G. Keenan wrote:
August 10 21, 1:50 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 2:07 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 12:51 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
August 9 21, 12:38 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
August 9 21, 9:30 am
Finished episode 1 of Enterprise yesterday and am definitely enjoying the premise of humans' first-ever starship mission into the cosmos.
If you're like me...you will struggle with some of the early episodes of Enterprise. But stick with it.

Edit to say that does not include the Enterprise Pilot; which I thought was very good.
The pilot was good. And while I appreciated the random "rub anti-protozoa oil on the hot Vulcan" scene, that was way too Cinemax for Trek.
The decontamination scenes never end.
Seriously? It would be such an out of place scene for TNG, DS9, or Voyager. The execs at CBS must have decided Enterprise needed more skin for ratings or something.
It was supposed to be one of the flagship (pun intended) shows for the new UPN channel, so maybe that's why they sexed it up.

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The times they were a-changing...


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The decontamination scenes do peter out, the first one is the worse example. They move onto other scenes later. Then there are these strange bra-on post-coitus scenes in S4 and thereabouts. And then there's the augments girl, and the Orio-

okay, yeah they never really end.

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AdmiralKird wrote:
August 9 21, 12:45 pm
Most of Enterprise is pretty good. The online stigma is it gets good in S3 and S4 but there's just about as much good in S1 and S2. The idea that the series started getting better in quality was birthed online around S4 to really try and get trekkies back to keep the series from cancellation, and it's just stuck. It's really no better or worse than earlier seasons.

People were just fatigued with Star Trek at this point and ideas were running dry. They repeat some stories, but Enterprise does a real good job telling the most-refined versions of some classic Trek moral dilemmas. Dear Doctor and The Cogenitor are the two that come to mind the most. They've done these countless times but they're striking and poignant on Enterprise, hit every beat with precision, and its era helps lend to that as well.
I liked episodes in the first season and I liked the show a lot starting in season 2. Season 1 is the year with the most stinkers in my opinion. Just at times felt a little sluggish. Kind of like only going Warp 5 in a Warp 9 universe.

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AdmiralKird wrote:
August 10 21, 3:29 pm
The decontamination scenes do peter out, the first one is the worse example. They move onto other scenes later. Then there are these strange bra-on post-coitus scenes in S4 and thereabouts. And then there's the augments girl, and the Orio-

okay, yeah they never really end.
Well I guess I'll just have to suffer through them :wink:

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