Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[clement]

I think it's pretty clear. You can talk well without saying a word. Go back to last Thursday if you need a reference. It's certainly how he says it...not what he says.

For you. Not for me. I couldn't care less how great an orator he or any other politician is, I care about his positions on issues. Of course I want the president to be able to pronounce the words he is saying and be able to speak intelligently on issues without relying on cue cards, but aside from that relatively low hurdle, it's what they say that counts, not how.

Well, when he finally does say what he'll do, if he ever does, then you're right. I won't like it. Probably not a word.

Obamamania is running wild because of what a great orator he is not because of his positions.

That's about as simplistic of an analysis as it gets. I don't think Obama's speech was anything to get all worked up about, but even the conservative commentators I saw on TV were praising the way he went into specifics in his speech.

Just curious, what is exactly the reason for the Palin-mania that's running wild?

[ghostrunner]

I think I just heard a Republican lady ululate on CNN.

[ghostrunner]

I'm voting for Obama, and it has nothing to do with his speaking ability.

[BW23]

I think it's pretty clear. You can talk well without saying a word. Go back to last Thursday if you need a reference. It's certainly how he says it...not what he says.

For you. Not for me. I couldn't care less how great an orator he or any other politician is, I care about his positions on issues. Of course I want the president to be able to pronounce the words he is saying and be able to speak intelligently on issues without relying on cue cards, but aside from that relatively low hurdle, it's what they say that counts, not how.

Well, when he finally does say what he'll do, if he ever does, then you're right. I won't like it. Probably not a word.

Obamamania is running wild because of what a great orator he is not because of his positions.

do you realize how condescending and dismissive that is?

Wow. I forgot. Bow down to Obama and slam the conservatives at every turn. Right? Wanna go back through the other 200+ pages and talk to all the freakin' liberals that have said much, much worse?

I disagree with everything that Obama stands for. I rarely hear him say anything of substance. I've heard SO many people say how they like him. When asked why, they can't name a single thing he actually is running on.

But if that's condescending and dismissive, so be it. I'd say it's pretty darn lame compared to most of the crap in this thread.

[clement]

I think I just heard a Republican lady ululate on CNN.

What a joyous day it will be her! But they better hurry up and get her to the maternity ward!

[fanforever]

We face many dangerous threats in a dangerous world, but I am not afraid of them-John Mccain

[stlouie_lipp]

Man, I'm getting too worked up for someone who hasn't decided who to vote for yet.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

I think it's pretty clear. You can talk well without saying a word. Go back to last Thursday if you need a reference. It's certainly how he says it...not what he says.

For you. Not for me. I couldn't care less how great an orator he or any other politician is, I care about his positions on issues. Of course I want the president to be able to pronounce the words he is saying and be able to speak intelligently on issues without relying on cue cards, but aside from that relatively low hurdle, it's what they say that counts, not how.

Well, when he finally does say what he'll do, if he ever does, then you're right. I won't like it. Probably not a word.

Obamamania is running wild because of what a great orator he is not because of his positions.

That's about as simplistic of an analysis as it gets. I don't think Obama's speech was anything to get all worked up about, but even the conservative commentators I saw on TV were praising the way he went into specifics in his speech.

Just curious, what is exactly the reason for the Palin-mania that's running wild?

Didn't you know? She's gonna "shake up Washington." She's a bulldog with lipstick.

PS - She's attractive for a politician.

[GatewaySnayke]

Obamamania is running wild because of what a great orator he is not because of his positions.

Wrong again. I'm not sure where you live, but here's what Gallup has to say the American people stand for:

Americans are pro-choice (67 percent)

Americans support the Geneva Conventions with regards to torture (57 percent)

Americans don't want the government snooping in their bank and internet records (67 percent)

Americans support protecting the environment at the expense of economic growth (55 percent)

Americans believe that global warming is happening (86 percent)

Americans believe that it's the government's responsibility to provide health care (69 percent)

Americans support the decriminalization of marijuana (55 percent) and support the legalization of medical marijuana (78 percent)

Americans are opposed to attacking Iran (68 percent, according to a CNN Poll)

Americans support labor unions (60 percent)

Americans want government funding of embryonic stem cell research (56 percent)

Americans believe rich people and corporations aren't paying enough taxes (66 percent)

[Socnorb11]

Basically McCain is saying "The country is a mess, and my party is mostly responsible for that mess, but you should go ahead and give my party another chance".