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Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:42 pm
by st.lewis11
How many other managers would let the same reliever give up a tying homer twice in the late innings, yet still leave him in to give up a 3rd homer as a go-ahead?

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:44 pm
by cardsfantx
jagtrader wrote:
June 12 26, 9:36 pm
Guys, Stanek sucks. Graceffo is bad. Roycroft, Svanson and Bruihl should be in the minors. There are three above-average arms in the bullpen and one of them wasn’t available. And the starter tonight is really a reliever.
Graceffo is not bad; like at all

Graceffo, Soriano, O’Brien (and JoJo and Fernandez when available) are the 3 guys with the lead. If you need a 4th, then it’s svanson, who’s now rebounding and pitching great like he did all of last year.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:44 pm
by phins
Just an awful loss. Oli really hasn't grown much in the bullpen.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:44 pm
by jagtrader
This is the risk you run when you spend the off-season pretending winning doesn't matter and then you unexpectedly have a chance to win. The things you didn't improve come back to haunt you.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:44 pm
by phins
cardsfantx wrote:
June 12 26, 9:44 pm
jagtrader wrote:
June 12 26, 9:36 pm
Guys, Stanek sucks. Graceffo is bad. Roycroft, Svanson and Bruihl should be in the minors. There are three above-average arms in the bullpen and one of them wasn’t available. And the starter tonight is really a reliever.
Graceffo is not bad; like at all

Graceffo, Soriano, O’Brien (and JoJo and Fernandez when available) are the 3 guy with the lead. If you need a 4th, then it’s svanson, who’s not rebounding and pitching great like he did all of last year.
He does have a negative fWAR. The regression is coming hard.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:44 pm
by CardsofSTL
JoJo not being available is pretty much on Oli also. Why did he use him in a game where the Cards were up by 7 runs?

Losses suck but it is worse when you feel like the other team is trying to give you the win and you just won't take it.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:46 pm
by Birds67
CardsofSTL wrote:
June 12 26, 9:30 pm
Cards go 1-2-3

That was a really trash game on a rain soaked trash field.
I have always wondered why a retractable dome was not put in that stadium. March/April games and September/October games there can be very cold. And precipitation is a concern there no matter the month.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:46 pm
by CardsofSTL
Birds67 wrote:
June 12 26, 9:46 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
June 12 26, 9:30 pm
Cards go 1-2-3

That was a really trash game on a rain soaked trash field.
I have always wondered why a retractable dome was not put in that stadium. March/April games and September/October games there can be very cold. And precipitation is a concern there no matter the month.
Plus they will never win another world series if they can't cheat with the fans/airhandlers in a dome.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:47 pm
by jagtrader
cardsfantx wrote:
June 12 26, 9:44 pm
jagtrader wrote:
June 12 26, 9:36 pm
Guys, Stanek sucks. Graceffo is bad. Roycroft, Svanson and Bruihl should be in the minors. There are three above-average arms in the bullpen and one of them wasn’t available. And the starter tonight is really a reliever.
Graceffo is not bad; like at all

Graceffo, Soriano, O’Brien (and JoJo and Fernandez when available) are the 3 guys with the lead. If you need a 4th, then it’s svanson, who’s now rebounding and pitching great like he did all of last year.
Graceffo has 17 Ks in 33 innings. He's bad.

The greatest trick Marmol pulled is convincing people the Cardinals should win close games. They're a miracle this season.

Re: 6/12 GDT: Cardinals(Leahy) @ Twins(Ryan) 7:10 PM CT

Posted: June 12 26, 9:48 pm
by CardsofSTL
We didn't even use Roycroft. :blinky: