Update: HOLLIDAY A CARD 7yr/120 million, p178

[Richie Allen]

haha luckily we found the magic number where Holliday signs with us forever instead of taking a one-year deal. I can imagine the negotiations.

Mo: How about now?
Boras: Nope
Mo: Now?
Boras: Getting warmer...

If you think he'd rather take a one year deal than a 5/90 offer from the Cardinals, that's nuts.

You anti opt-outers argued a 7/119 was better than the potential 5/90 if he leaves after 5 years.

Of course nobody knows what the best possible deal we could have had was. And I'd argue if we could somehow find that out, we still wouldn't know until we see Holliday perform for the next number of years.

I'd say that as long as his contract is around or under what we originally thought it was going to take to sign him, don't waste too much time second guessing.

[haltz]

I wasn't privy to the discussions, but the idea that we were bidding against the threat of a one-year deal is funny to me. I think we beat that with the initial 5/85 offer.

And obviously 5/90 is preferable to 7/117. The anti-opt-outers argued that 7/117 is better than 7/117 with fifth-year opt-out.

[TimeForGuinness]

I wasn't privy to the discussions, but the idea that we were bidding against the threat of a one-year deal is funny to me. I think we beat that with the initial 5/85 offer.

And obviously 5/90 is preferable to 7/117. The anti-opt-outers argued that 7/117 is better than 7/117 with fifth-year opt-out.

Why is that funny...wasn't that the exact situation he did with Colorado and Oakland?

[haltz]

with Colorado and Oakland Holliday cared about getting to the open market. If the best offer he found once he got there was $90 million, was he really going to sign a one-year deal and go back into free agency next year? I think players have too much self-interest for that.

Anyway, I'm speculating that we paid more than we had to for Holliday, but I also think it's a fair contract for his services, so whatever.

[Leroy]

I can't decide if I'm pro-opt out or anti-opt out. But I do know a pizza isn't a pizza until you take it out of the oven.

[haltz]

I can't decide if I'm pro-opt out or anti-opt out. But I do know a pizza isn't a pizza until you take it out of the oven.

then you're with us.

[Jocephus]

its a pizza when you put your hands in the dough!

[GodWeenSanto]

its a pizza when you put your hands in the dough!

On this there can be no debate!

[The Third Man]

But what is Holliday's stance on abortion?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I wasn't privy to the discussions, but the idea that we were bidding against the threat of a one-year deal is funny to me. I think we beat that with the initial 5/85 offer.

Why? Has a Boras a Boras client never taken a 1 year deal when he didn't get the deal Boras was seeking?