UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

[Swingingbunt]

I'm not doing backflips over this one.

It's worth noting we'll get draft picks if he declines arbitration in the off-season.

That's the other scary thing... what if his asking price is huge, nobody signs him, and the Cardinals have to take him to an arbitration judge? His price will be unwieldy and you don't get draft picks.

If he accepts arbitration, we'll get him for a year at probably $16 mil, which isn't the end of the world.

Troy Glaus plus half of Pineiro...

[clevername]

Holliday may be our best chance at a playoff run and World Series this year

surely you jest. i hope..

of what we have available and are likely to get, no I'm not jesting. It sounds like we've been out of the Halladay discussion for a while. Holliday was much more attainable.

Who would you prefer?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I'm not doing backflips over this one.

It's worth noting we'll get draft picks if he declines arbitration in the off-season.

That's the other scary thing... what if his asking price is huge, nobody signs him, and the Cardinals have to take him to an arbitration judge? His price will be unwieldy and you don't get draft picks.

If he accepts arbitration, we'll get him for a year at probably $16 mil, which isn't the end of the world.

I would be giddy about that as well.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Holliday may be our best chance at a playoff run and World Series this year

surely you jest. i hope..

of what we have available and are likely to get, no I'm not jesting. It sounds like we've been out of the Halladay discussion for a while. Holliday was much more attainable.

Who would you prefer?

Plus, look at it this way. What gains us more wins. Halladay over Pineiro/Lohse or Holliday over Ankiel/Stainoha?

[omaha_red]

remember when we had re-signed edgar according to espn and everyone else..?
i'm not sold that this is done until he's batting behind albert..

[JL21]

I'm not doing backflips over this one.

It's worth noting we'll get draft picks if he declines arbitration in the off-season.

That's the other scary thing... what if his asking price is huge, nobody signs him, and the Cardinals have to take him to an arbitration judge? His price will be unwieldy and you don't get draft picks.

On the other hand, you have an excellent player with the low risk one year contact before an AP extension. My guess he'll get around 18m-20m? Not ideal, but it could be worse.

I'm warming a little too.

That kind of thing torpedoes any foray they have into the FA market. You budget X amount to spend in free agency to fill whatever holes you can fill. But out of the fear of that happening (Holliday going to an arb. judge), you drastically reduce that amount you'd spend on FA just because you don't want to blow your budget out of whack on one guy.

[cards2468]

Holliday may be our best chance at a playoff run and World Series this year

surely you jest. i hope..

of what we have available and are likely to get, no I'm not jesting. It sounds like we've been out of the Halladay discussion for a while. Holliday was much more attainable.

Who would you prefer?

Plus, look at it this way. What gains us more wins. Halladay over Pineiro/Lohse or Holliday over Ankiel/Stainoha?

Why would Joel or Lohse be bumped out of the rotation? It would be Halladay over Wellemeyer

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I'm not doing backflips over this one.

It's worth noting we'll get draft picks if he declines arbitration in the off-season.

That's the other scary thing... what if his asking price is huge, nobody signs him, and the Cardinals have to take him to an arbitration judge? His price will be unwieldy and you don't get draft picks.

If he accepts arbitration, we'll get him for a year at probably $16 mil, which isn't the end of the world.

Troy Glaus plus half of Pineiro...

The cards payroll is 88 mil. Plus 16 mil, they're at 104. Far from out of their league.....

[JL21]

Holliday may be our best chance at a playoff run and World Series this year

surely you jest. i hope..

of what we have available and are likely to get, no I'm not jesting. It sounds like we've been out of the Halladay discussion for a while. Holliday was much more attainable.

Who would you prefer?

Plus, look at it this way. What gains us more wins. Halladay over Pineiro/Lohse or Holliday over Ankiel/Stainoha?

I think you mean Halladay over Wellemeyer.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Holliday may be our best chance at a playoff run and World Series this year

surely you jest. i hope..

of what we have available and are likely to get, no I'm not jesting. It sounds like we've been out of the Halladay discussion for a while. Holliday was much more attainable.

Who would you prefer?

Plus, look at it this way. What gains us more wins. Halladay over Pineiro/Lohse or Holliday over Ankiel/Stainoha?

Why would Joel or Lohse be bumped out of the rotation? It would be Halladay over Wellemeyer

Not in the playoffs.