Neighborhood crime

[sighyoung]

But to the point I the story, if 5 men dressed in body armor and AK47s broke into your home, you're pretty much [expletive].

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[cardsfansince82]

I'm going to guess one of the robbers was on the crew that remodeled the house and spotted something way more valuable than some flat screen TVs.

[IMADreamer]

In the middle of the night, five guys in body armor and carrying AR or AK type weapons broke in through a glass door and just started taking stuff. Basically said they wouldn't bother them (the owners) unless provoked and if that happened, they had 5 guys and like 10 guns.

I'm surprised someone would go to the trouble of assembling a five man team with expensive guns and armor just to steal TVs. If you're going to that much trouble and expense, wouldn't you at least hit a bank or somewhere there is real money? That's such an ostentatious crime, invading occupied homes with essentially a military squad, that I can't imagine you could repeat it without drawing a huge law enforcement response.

You hit a half dozen or so nice suburban houses and you'll be able to get a pretty good sum of money and stuff. Not to mention almost no risk, especially if you are heavily armed. Robbing a bank almost guarantees you get caught.

Anyway Wart, these people in your neighborhood they want to kill someone. It's a sick fantasy a lot of gun people have. They get to be a hero in their eyes, take out a "lowlife" who is probably just someones kid in the subdivision, and they can even make it on TV. Sure they might get arrested but probably not and eventually it leads to a book deal and everything.

Since I'm a terrible person it gives me great solace knowing they are about 300 times more likely to kill a family member then an intruder. In a way it's a little bit of justice in an unjust world.

My advice, when your girls start selling girl scout cookies or fundraising for school don't send them to the known gun owners homes. They will probably try to shoot your kids.

Dreamer, what scares me is the fact that bullets, when they don't hit the intended target, can go a long way. If you are shooting at someone, say running toward your door, if you miss, that bullet could go right across the street or several streets and kill an innocent child asleep in his or her bed.

Scary [expletive].

I think about two years ago in Chicago there was a shooting where the bullet missed it's target and hit a little girl riding her bike on the sidewalk nearly two blocks away. I don't remember for sure but I remember being shocked at how far away the girl was from the actual shooter.

[M1IRONMIKE]

Anyway Wart, these people in your neighborhood they want to kill someone. It's a sick fantasy a lot of gun people have. They get to be a hero in their eyes, take out a "lowlife" who is probably just someones kid in the subdivision, and they can even make it on TV. Sure they might get arrested but probably not and eventually it leads to a book deal and everything.

Since I'm a terrible person it gives me great solace knowing they are about 300 times more likely to kill a family member then an intruder. In a way it's a little bit of justice in an unjust world.

My advice, when your girls start selling girl scout cookies or fundraising for school don't send them to the known gun owners homes. They will probably try to shoot your kids.

Maybe so but there also seems to be a very real fear that someones kid in these folks subdivision is robbing people of their possessions and maybe plans to do them harm if they are interrupted. 5 doors down from my home somebodies kid from the neighborhood broke into a old womans house and she was home. He didn't run away. he stabbed her multiple times killing her. I'm sorry but you seem a little quick to defend the lowlife neighborhood kid. The people,who you gain solace in knowing will kill their own family members have every right to defend themselves.

[IMADreamer]

Anyway Wart, these people in your neighborhood they want to kill someone. It's a sick fantasy a lot of gun people have. They get to be a hero in their eyes, take out a "lowlife" who is probably just someones kid in the subdivision, and they can even make it on TV. Sure they might get arrested but probably not and eventually it leads to a book deal and everything.

Since I'm a terrible person it gives me great solace knowing they are about 300 times more likely to kill a family member then an intruder. In a way it's a little bit of justice in an unjust world.

My advice, when your girls start selling girl scout cookies or fundraising for school don't send them to the known gun owners homes. They will probably try to shoot your kids.

Maybe so but there also seems to be a very real fear that someones kid in these folks subdivision is robbing people of their possessions and maybe plans to do them harm if they are interrupted. 5 doors down from my home somebodies kid from the neighborhood broke into a old womans house and she was home. He didn't run away. he stabbed her multiple times killing her. I'm sorry but you seem a little quick to defend the lowlife neighborhood kid. The people,who you gain solace in knowing will kill their own family members have every right to defend themselves.

Oh they certainly have a right to defend themselves, but I can't help but wonder if something like a security system might be the best way to go about it? Again the statistics show that your gun is far more likely to hurt a family member then any intruder.

I just don't see scared people and guns as a good mixture. Especially if there are kids in the house.

In the situation of the old woman in your neighborhood. Would a gun have saved her? This kid sounds like a murder, not a robber and sadly that situation happened and maybe was unavoidable. However in an average robbing situation I'm not sure if a gun fixes the problem or just escalates it. A robber is a bad person and deserves to rot in jail. A robber whose facing a gun is going to be desperate and at that point you better be ready to pull that trigger because the bad guy is going to look for a way out and if has a gun too he probably won't hesitate.

[Diddy]

I've thought about this as I'm an adult with kids and I refuse to bring a gun into my home. Step 1 before I do anything else is to dial 911 as soon as possible. Doesn't matter what the scenario is, that is step #1. I live across the street from a hospital, so someone would be there pretty fast

Is it dumb for me to think there should be a way to text 911 in these situations where you don't want an intruder to hear you? I can see it leading to problems also.

Personally I have a 45 in my night stand. I certainly don't want to use it but don't want to need to and it not be there. I was helping a neighbor put his new gun safe in his basement and he made the comment that he'd never shoot anyone over property. I'd say that's a pretty good policy. I want to be able to protect my family but I don't want someone's blood on my hands over some PS4 games.

Our house was broken into when I was young. To this day that's the scaredist I've ever been. Someone standing in your room feet from you not knowing what they are going to do. I was literally scared stiff. I slept with a baseball bat by my bed and a buck knife under my pillow till I got the pistol a decade later.

[Jocephus]

im a renter. can i still kill people if they enter the place i rent or do i have to own it?

[wart57]

Anyway Wart, these people in your neighborhood they want to kill someone. It's a sick fantasy a lot of gun people have. They get to be a hero in their eyes, take out a "lowlife" who is probably just someones kid in the subdivision, and they can even make it on TV. Sure they might get arrested but probably not and eventually it leads to a book deal and everything.

Since I'm a terrible person it gives me great solace knowing they are about 300 times more likely to kill a family member then an intruder. In a way it's a little bit of justice in an unjust world.

My advice, when your girls start selling girl scout cookies or fundraising for school don't send them to the known gun owners homes. They will probably try to shoot your kids.

Maybe so but there also seems to be a very real fear that someones kid in these folks subdivision is robbing people of their possessions and maybe plans to do them harm if they are interrupted. 5 doors down from my home somebodies kid from the neighborhood broke into a old womans house and she was home. He didn't run away. he stabbed her multiple times killing her. I'm sorry but you seem a little quick to defend the lowlife neighborhood kid. The people,who you gain solace in knowing will kill their own family members have every right to defend themselves.

I have not ever defended the kids breaking in and steeling stuff, I don't know how being scared of the blood lust of some of my neighbors equates to defending the punks stealing our stuff. These drugged up kids need to be caught and put away, I just don't want to see our community on the news because some home owner killed an intruder, or killed an innocent bystander during a break-in. So far, 2 kids have been caught and several more observed trying to break in, none of them had any weapons on them. I know things can change quickly, and someone did allegedly have a gun stolen from their car last week, but the comments so many residents are spewing is really scary.

[cardsfansince82]

im a renter. can i still kill people if they enter the place i rent or do i have to own it?

As long as you are a lawful tenant of the place then it is considered your home and the Castle Doctrine applies. Shoot away.

[Jocephus]

sweet. a license to kill because i pay bills. thank you jesus.