Rant/Rave: Bourbon

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33anda3rd wrote:
Secret Weapon wrote:Right on cue from deadspin today
Beer and Liquor Truthers

Their Truth: Were you aware that fancy Bulleit Rye you're drinking is part of a larger corporate collective? It's not even MADE in Bulleit. And that microbrew you keep in the fridge is owned by InBev. That's right. The only thing I can taste here is your subservience to branding. Why just burn the word SUCKER into your tongue?

Righteousness Rating: Eight turds in the punchbowl.

Essential Reading: Beeradvocate.com.

Other Hobbies: Microbrewing; experimenting with serving turnips as an entree.

Armed? No. Now's your chance to shoot them.

Typical Comment Section Argument: "For a real independent bourbon, try Pappy Ron Mullenrunner's Virgin Corn Spirits. Only three bottles were made and I have two of them. Not for sale."

Chances They Are Right: Oh, 100 percent. Seriously though, [expletive] these people. Let me enjoy my mass-produced phony-baloney niche alcohol in peace. I was happy with my drink before you came along and ruined it.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-fiel ... 1640831550
The voice of the people.

In other news, Templeton has a lawsuit going against them. Why? Because they brand themselves pre-Prohibition rye from the original recipe of whatever. But they're LDI, a corporate distillate, that Templeton puts in barrels and ages and then markets and slaps a fancy label on the bottle claiming something it's not.
Though largely a formality, it is an acknowledgment that Templeton Rye could be found liable for violating Iowa law if allegations of consumer fraud and misleading advertising are found to be true, Brauch said.

Taken at face value, the claims against the rye whiskey producer appear "not even remotely close to frivolous," he said. "In looking at the claims, they appeared to me to be ones that had validity, and in fact, strong validity."
Because it's BULL [expletive]. It's not pre-Prohibition anything, it's just fancy marketing. Like Bulleit.

You can amen all you want, people hating on me in this thread, you're wrong. Dead wrong. This is like if Bud made one of their awful corn and rice infused, low-malt, virtually no-hop beers and sold it to someone who put a fancy label on it and called it "craft beer." It's still big corporate beer.These products are marketing devices that if you're defending them you need to wake up. You can like the taste, and like the product, fine, whatever, I don't care. Spend your money however you want to spend your money and if you like Bulleit god bless. But you can't act all holier-than-thou over the principle behind the thing, or get all up in arms when people point this stuff out, which at its core is marketing that's full of deceit perpetrated on you as a consumer.

G'night.
I know that I'm certainly not perfect, don't really hold any sway around here, I make dumb jokes, and am probably looked down upon by most at GRB...I'm just trying to keep it simple these days...I'm not an expert and don't claim to be, but your last few posts in this thread have tripped a nerve.

I think there only person acting holier-than-thou in this thread is you...trying to prove you're elite only shows that you aren't. I actually feel sad because we share similar interests, and you provide good information...but how you present it is caustic, you're attitude sucks, and you come off like a prick. Maybe that's an artifact of GRB and how long time users treat certain members (it can be cliquish), but it seems to be a constant theme with your posts. A little tact would go a long way, and ignoring the trolls would be an added skill to acquire as well.

Bulleit is a great entry level bourbon whiskey. It's still distilled in Lawrenceburg, KY at the Four Roses Distillery. Now the Bulleit Rye is done in Lawrenceburg, IN (which I chuckle at similar names, either by dumb luck or deception)...and I've had it, and it's fine. I prefer their 10yr bourbon whiskey if I'm going to drink Bulleit. But Bulleit is one of the 20+ bourbons/whiskeys that I like to drink. It's usually my "go-to" bourbon because it's starting to be found more easily at normal bars in STL (unless I go to a whiskey/bourbon bar or a more upscale drinking establishment) and I like it better than Jack or Beam.

This thread was a great place to discuss bourbons/whiskeys/ryes...to give/take recommendations for bourbons/drinks I need to try...but like all threads, it quickly gets derailed and people feel the need to prove they have a small dick in front of everyone else. Either offer information or don't, but spare me the [expletive] drama queen BS...you're better than that.

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I agree.

This should have been a fun thread vs. another edition of "I know more about this than anyone else and I am the authority on this and all things."

That [expletive] gets old real quick.

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i agree too.

it seems it would be a lot easier to say "i recommend this product".

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Now to try to get this back on track, again, if anyone wanna join me at the Whiskey Ring some night, let me know...I got the first round.

I had the Hudson Baby Bourbon Whiskey last weekend and forgot how much I enjoyed it, I need to get a bottle of it.

I know there are a lot of craft distilleries, but does anyone have anything solid that I can find in STL? Like if I went to Randall's Wine & Spirits, Lucas Liquor, etc?

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33rd doesn't strike me as condescending in this thread at all. It'd be worse if felt the need to qualify anything but he knows what he knows so why not share?

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Oh my god.

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TimeForGuinness wrote: I know that I'm certainly not perfect, don't really hold any sway around here, I make dumb jokes, and am probably looked down upon by most at GRB...
I can't tell if we need to call in Stuart Smalley or if you've gone completely Buddha.

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At our last christmas party, we did a dirty santa or whatever its called gift exchange. Someone stole a bottle of Bulleit from me and I ended up with a coffee mug with a coworkers face on it. Oh well. But, the guy that ended up with the bulleit opened it up and poured me a shot in my new coffee mug. And, I took a shot of it. It tasted like ass, as most hot bourbons do when you shoot them, and that is my only story with or opinion of the stuff.

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I bought a bottle of Buffalo whatever and liked it. I'll be damned if I can taste vanilla or medicine or ginger, but it's pretty good. Larceny is another brand I like in that price range, and it has a stronger flavor. So I guess I have 3 distinct choices that I like in a price range I can afford that taste different to me - Buffalo whatever, Larceny, and Evan Williams 1783. I'm going to try Bulleit next.

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How much is Buffalo ?

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