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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:57 am
by Jocephus
Socnorb11 wrote:
Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.

Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:57 am
by Socnorb11
Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.

So you're convinced that they all thought that Sams wasn't good enought to play for their team, in spite of the fact that he was the best defensive player in the best conference in America?

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:58 am
by Socnorb11
Jocephus wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.

Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?
You believe that?

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:58 am
by Jocephus
Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.
its cool that you're all privy to peoples minds/thoughts/motivations?

we're only going off what is said/done.

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:59 am
by Socnorb11
Jocephus wrote:people rarely admit they are homophobic.

and i dont get the fat women/people comparison you are trying to make.

Do gay people deserve more honor than fat women? Why aren't you outraged at Barkley?

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:59 am
by lukethedrifter
Come right out and say that you believe that Dungy's manly brand of Christianity has nothing at all to do with it. I dare you.

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 9:59 am
by Jocephus
Socnorb11 wrote:
Jocephus wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.

Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?
You believe that?
so being gay was the determining factor

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 10:02 am
by Schlich
Jocephus wrote:
Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.
its cool that you're all privy to peoples minds/thoughts/motivations?

we're only going off what is said/done.
I was talking to broncos? I think we're in agreement here?

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Socnorb11 wrote:So you're convinced that they all thought that Sams wasn't good enought to play for their team, in spite of the fact that he was the best defensive player in the best conference in America?
Do you understand how drafts work? One team drafting him means that 31 other teams are going to pass up on him, no matter where in the draft he goes. Your argument doesn't support or deny your claims, it just makes no sense.

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 10:03 am
by Socnorb11
lukethedrifter wrote:Come right out and say that you believe that Dungy's manly brand of Christianity has nothing at all to do with it. I dare you.

I have no idea what his motivation was. Why does it matter? I've already said that he's a hypocrite.

Are you saying that it's OK for Barkley to ridicule fat women, because Barkley's not openly Christian?

Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

Posted: July 23 14, 10:04 am
by Schlich
lol