i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?Socnorb11 wrote:Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.
Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.
So you're convinced that they all thought that Sams wasn't good enought to play for their team, in spite of the fact that he was the best defensive player in the best conference in America?
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You believe that?Jocephus wrote:i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?Socnorb11 wrote:Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.
Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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its cool that you're all privy to peoples minds/thoughts/motivations?Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.
we're only going off what is said/done.
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Jocephus wrote:people rarely admit they are homophobic.
and i dont get the fat women/people comparison you are trying to make.
Do gay people deserve more honor than fat women? Why aren't you outraged at Barkley?
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Come right out and say that you believe that Dungy's manly brand of Christianity has nothing at all to do with it. I dare you.
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so being gay was the determining factorSocnorb11 wrote:You believe that?Jocephus wrote:i thought it was 'cause he wasn't talented enough?Socnorb11 wrote:Schlich wrote:Not drafting a guy isn't the same thing as being publicly homophobic. Donald Sterling would have been a much more apt comparison.
Dungy didn't say or imply that he's homophobic. He said he didn't want the distractions that come with Sams being the first openly gay NFL player, which is the same reason 31 GM's didn't draft him.
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I was talking to broncos? I think we're in agreement here?Jocephus wrote:its cool that you're all privy to peoples minds/thoughts/motivations?Schlich wrote:It's cool that you're privy to all of the GMs' internal proceedings.
we're only going off what is said/done.
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Do you understand how drafts work? One team drafting him means that 31 other teams are going to pass up on him, no matter where in the draft he goes. Your argument doesn't support or deny your claims, it just makes no sense.Socnorb11 wrote:So you're convinced that they all thought that Sams wasn't good enought to play for their team, in spite of the fact that he was the best defensive player in the best conference in America?
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lukethedrifter wrote:Come right out and say that you believe that Dungy's manly brand of Christianity has nothing at all to do with it. I dare you.
I have no idea what his motivation was. Why does it matter? I've already said that he's a hypocrite.
Are you saying that it's OK for Barkley to ridicule fat women, because Barkley's not openly Christian?
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