Big Ten Expansion

[PurdueSTL]

.... and this is where I exit the debate because as usual when the topic is ND words like "clueless" and "hubris" are tossed around and respectful discussion is impossible.

Probably a wise decision to recuse yourself from this...the more you posted, the less sense you made.

My apologies if I offended you, but you are kidding yourself if you thought folks wouldn't call you out on the nonsense you've posted in this thread...

Your inclusion of the words "as usual" tells me you've been called out for nonsense in the past.---there's likely a broad hint to be found in there somewhere...

[Radio_Bugtussle]

ND hasn't played Air Force in 3 years, their schedule last year was ranked 32nd in the country at the end of the season, and this is where I exit the debate because as usual when the topic is ND words like "clueless" and "hubris" are tossed around and respectful discussion is impossible.

Again, the point is in being pro-active. Notre Dame is fine to stay independent in this landscape, but if you think Big 10 expansion is going to lead to consolidation and a longer conference season, it could be very hard to remain relevant as an independent.

More conference games means fewer opportunities for quality opponents. A good reason to give up the 19/20th Century "Independent" thinking.

A 6 to 8 win ND team as an independent isn't going to keep decent TV revenue for very long. 6 to 8 win B-10 teams don't have that problem. If/when that TV revenue dries up, ND becomes Fordham West during football season.

While I like the B-12 and Missouri's place in it, Mizzou moving to the B-10 would not be the end of the world. Lots of interesting rivalries in the B-12 and the football in the league is entertaining stuff. Mizzou/Illinois and Mizzou/Iowa should be rather interesting.

Pinkel will make that work for him just as he used the B-12 to his advantage in working Texas. Sure, the Orange Cows get who they want, but there is a lot left after they're done. Several of those guys have done pretty well. GP will likely do similar things with a good B-10 based foothold in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Probably should update this thread...

It appears the Pac-10, which has its meetings in San Francisco starting this weekend, is prepared to make a bold move and invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado to join its league, according to multiple sources close to the situation.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090747

[clevername]

Colorado AD gives credibility to the report: http://ht.ly/1TQmN

dominoes are starting to fall.

[obucard]

Probably should update this thread...

It appears the Pac-10, which has its meetings in San Francisco starting this weekend, is prepared to make a bold move and invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado to join its league, according to multiple sources close to the situation.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090747

Texas and Oklahoma in the Pac(ific)-10. What's next, TCU and Nebraska invited to join the ACC?

[JoeMcKim]

The future of the Big 12 doesn't look so bright. Either it will be eventually eliminated with all the teams joining different conferences or if it does live on will be drastically diminished looking more like Conference USA then the Big 12 conference.

[lukethedrifter]

http://newsok.com/is-nebraksa-on-the-cl ... _click=rss

When Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe emerged from a presidents meeting Friday and talked about a "process" by which the league will decide how to sort the dalliances of some schools with the Big Ten, what he meant was, Nebraska has been called out.

I don't know for sure. I wasn't in the room. But I've talked to people who know what they're talking about. And this is about Nebraska.

This isn't about Missouri. Nobody cares about Missouri. Stay, go, drop football, get mad all over again that the Insight Bowl invited Iowa State. Doesn't matter.

If only Missouri leaves the Big 12, the league is fine. Heck, the league thrives. TV revenues wouldn't go down, plus there's one less mouth to feed. Heck, the NCAA might even give the Big 12 a waiver and let it keep the football championship game.

This is about Nebraska. Everybody cares about Nebraska. Nebraska helps make the league go. Without Nebraska, Texas' and Oklahoma's enthusiasm for the Big 12 wanes.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

[lukethedrifter]

Apparently, [expletive] is going down fast. Austin American-Statesman reporting

Nebraska and Missouri have been given an ultimatum by the Big 12 and told they have until this Friday to decide if they want to remain in the conference or entertain the possibility of joining the Big Ten, two highly placed officials of two Big 12 schools said Saturday.

The deadline was given to the pair of schools by the Big 12 presidents during the league meetings held in Kansas City this past week.

Nebraska's Board of Trustees will meet Friday and Saturday in Lincoln.

"Nebraska has until 5 p.m. on Friday to tell us what they're going to do," one school official said, adding that he has heard that deadline could be extended to June 15. "The same deal for Missouri. They have to tell us they're not going to the Big Ten or … ."

Or at least six Big 12 schools, including Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech, will be inclined to accept an invitation to join the Pac-10

http://www.statesman.com/sports/nebrask ... 29660.html

[lukethedrifter]

Not sure if this guy knows what he's talking about but he's got an interesting theory about what is going on and why.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sion060610