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Secret Weapon wrote:
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robbotis wrote: The team has a near franchise best record, and some of it's best offensive players(McDonald, Boyes, Backes) have done jack. Those guys get rollin, watch out!
When's the last time you felt this good about a Blues team?
Why did you go and do that?

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Ha I know, it just seems like the exact same thing we were saying at the beginning of the Cardinals season. We were winning lots of games, the offense wasn't clicking, but when they do, watch out! Turns out the Cardinals offense never clicked, hopefully it turns out differently for the Blues, it's gonna be hard to get a shutout every game (or maybe not with Halak)
lukethedrifter wrote:Will the lack of scoring hurt them in the long run or can they make this formula hold up?


Probably around 20th in scoring. N/m I just checked, 17th and middle of the pack at 2.7ish per.

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Secret Weapon wrote: Ha I know, it just seems like the exact same thing we were saying at the beginning of the Cardinals season. We were winning lots of games, the offense wasn't clicking, but when they do, watch out! Turns out the Cardinals offense never clicked, hopefully it turns out differently for the Blues, it's gonna be hard to get a shutout every game (or maybe not with Halak)
I actually went back and read some of that thread...ugh.

Really hope the Blues can get the offense clicking and keep the D tight.

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The Phoenix Coyotes had a below average offense (2.74 goals per game) last season and still finished with 107 points.

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Also, the Blues offense isn't exactly terrible right now.

The Average goals scored/game per team in the NHL right now is 2.77. The Blues are averaging 2.8 goals per game.

The Blues' goal differential is currently second best in the league behind Boston.

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TheoSqua wrote:Also, the Blues offense isn't exactly terrible right now.

The Average goals scored/game per team in the NHL right now is 2.77. The Blues are averaging 2.8 goals per game.

The Blues' goal differential is currently second best in the league behind Boston.
Blues are averaging 2.7, a half goal+ behind the leaders. The question remains, will this formula hold up for them? Will scoring pick up? Or will they fall to the middle of the pack?

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lukethedrifter wrote:
TheoSqua wrote:Also, the Blues offense isn't exactly terrible right now.

The Average goals scored/game per team in the NHL right now is 2.77. The Blues are averaging 2.8 goals per game.

The Blues' goal differential is currently second best in the league behind Boston.
Blues are averaging 2.7, a half goal+ behind the leaders. The question remains, will this formula hold up for them? Will scoring pick up? Or will they fall to the middle of the pack?
I think we'll be fine. The teams we've played so far are giving up 2.81 goals per game on average. An average offense would score 28 goals against the teams we've played so far....we've scored 28 goals.

For comparison:
8 of Detroit's 10 games have come against teams who give up 2.90 goals a game or higher.
4 of St. Louis' 10 games have come against similar opponents.

Even then, the difference between Detroit and St. Louis right now is 4 goals in the same number of games. 4 goals over 10 games is well within the range of random variation. Do I think that St. Louis has as good of an offense as Detroit? Probably not. Do I think that 4 goals over 10 games proves that St. Louis offense isn't good enough and Detroit's is? Hardly.

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It's hockey. The faster, more aggressive team will win most games. They are winning the battles in the corners, they are in the attacking zone more often, and the defense is limiting shots. If they keep that up, they won't lose many games at all

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BigDCardlvr wrote:It's hockey. The faster, more aggressive team will win most games. They are winning the battles in the corners, they are in the attacking zone more often, and the defense is limiting shots. If they keep that up, they won't lose many games at all
I bet they'll regress, make some young team mistakes, be inconsistent and maddening. It's a great start, but I still see them finishing in the bottom half of the playoff contenders.

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lukethedrifter wrote:Blues are averaging 2.7, a half goal+ behind the leaders. The question remains, will this formula hold up for them? Will scoring pick up? Or will they fall to the middle of the pack?
Should we have expected them to not be in the middle of the pack? They're scoring about as often as I expected (more even), just with different personnel. The question is, will the guys who aren't scoring goals (Boyes, Backes, Steen) pick up for the guys who are (Perron, D'Agostini, Berglund) when those guys start to fade? As much as I love Perron, he's not going to score 40+ and neither is Dags. I also don't think Boyes, Backes, and Steen have suddenly become single digit goal scorers.

The big thing with this team is the number of shots they are allowing. Jaro isn't going to keep this up for the whole year but he should still be among the league leaders in SV%, probably around .920. They are only allowing 25.7 shots per game compared with 30.2 last year. Over the course of a season, with a .920 SV%, that difference accounts for 30 less goals. That is worth about 10 points in the standings. It is hard to quantify the individual's impact on shots allowed, so its hard to tell if this early season rate is flukish or if something has changed.

I know when I watch them that they are possessing the puck a lot better this year. The first three lines run a good cycle and occupy the offensive zone for extended periods of time. Often, these occupations haven't resulted in goals but they do prevent the opposition from mounting an attack and taking shots. If they can maintain this, they should be a 100+ point team even with the number of goals they are scoring now.

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Perron is the only player on the roster Capable of scoring 40 goals. I think we all know Brad Boyes will be lucky to ever top 25 again.

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