Coronavirus

[Freed Roger]

That's rough Sigh. Peace to your mother, you, and family.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Really sorry to hear, sigh. I hope you and your family can find peace and comfort during these times.

[redbirdjazzz]

I'm so sorry, Sigh.

[Fat_Bulldog]

I'm sorry Sigh

[GeddyWrox]

My heart goes out to you, Sigh.

[Jocephus]

very sorry to hear Sigh

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... li=BBnb7Kz

In a recent interview, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that he expects the general public to have access to vaccines by April. He doubled down on that estimate in a new appearance, explaining exactly how long it will take America to reach herd immunity.

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Fauci addressed coronavirus herd immunity in an interview with Bloomberg. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) director said he expects the US to achieve herd immunity by next summer if everything goes well and enough people get vaccinated.

“With regard to the distribution of vaccines, as I’m sure you’ve heard, it’s been in the media that the first level very likely health care providers and individuals in nursing homes and other high priority individuals will start getting it in December,” Fauci said. “As you get into January, February or March, you will then get the second, third, and fourth level of people people who are essential to society. People who are schoolteachers. People who are children by blood and on and on until you get to what you’re referring to, namely the ordinary man and woman in the street, the normal Coloradan or a United States citizen or occupant of this country.”

Fauci said “those who are not in the higher-risk categories” will start getting the vaccine by the middle to end of April. “Once you start getting vaccine going if you have good uptake, namely the overwhelming majority of people want to get vaccinated, you can expeditiously vaccinate people that by the time you get to the mid to the end of the second quarter of 2021, namely May, June, July, August you very likely could have an overwhelming majority of the people vaccinated.”

This means “you’d have herd immunity that would allow you to safely get people back to school in the fall, to safely get people back to the kinds of works that would otherwise be difficult as you get to the middle and end of the summer. So, it’s going to start in April,” Fauci said. “And it’s going to go right through the end of the second quarter of 2021.”

[mikechamp]

I'll have to dig it up, but there was a graphic in a BBC article I read yesterday that basically said from start to finish, it would take 28 days from first dosage to full immunity. Once I find it, I'll edit this post.

EDIT - Here is the graphic (spoilered for size):

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[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

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[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Going back to Iceland, I remember reading a NYT article I think it was where the columnist wrote about taking a trip to Iceland in like May or something. The article really focused on Iceland's complete freedom, comparatively, in their everyday lives. In short, he and the fam went to see some friends or relatives or whatever and were greeted with testing and open arms. They, being from NY, were wary after everything they'd just gone through, and the host basically said:
Look, you've been tested. You're fine. In the event you are positive and transmitting, you'll be found quickly and all will be fine. All is good here, just live your life. Follow the rules whatever they are. And enjoy.

At first, I thought it was kind of a sensationalistic article, but after learning more about what they are doing, it's not. They figured out back in February or March that a lot of testing was key to preventing pre/asymptomatic spread and rigorously tested early...They were the first to realize pre/asymptomatic spread was rampant and tested accordingly, even screening their population early on and focusing in hot areas.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03284-3

Truly amazing we didn't do something similar. And still don't. Mind bottling.

I think one of the bigger strategic errors made was not putting the same kind of emphasis on developing quick screening test methods early on as we did on vaccines. Obviously both are important. But testing wouldn't be subjected to the same rigorous clinical trials, etc. that vaccines are.

Even if you get a screening test that is only, say, 50% accurate with the error being on the false positive side, you could follow that with a more rigorous/accurate test for those testing positive, and really be able to cull the infected out of the herd.

Just imagine if we had a quick screening method developed and ready to deploy at schools starting in September, where kids could be tested coming in every day. That should have been the second highest priority at the federal level from the beginning, right behind developing a vaccine. I don't believe it was ever seriously considered.

Very good explanation of why the extra sensitivity PCR gets is unnecessary.