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Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???

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lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???

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Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.
If you don't think that there are conversations happening behind the scenes, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

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Some interesting tidbits regarding Joe Johnson:
Joe Johnson:
According to Michael Cunningham of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: ”A person familiar with the Hawks’ plans said they still hope to re-sign Johnson and are prepared to spend the money necessary to do so. The person said the Hawks fear Johnson might decide to leave for reasons other than money, including the criticism he received from fans and media after a poor showing in the playoffs last month. The person asked not be identified because the team has stipulated it would not publicly discuss the Johnson negotiations.

According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard: “When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, Knicks team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D’Antoni will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. The Knicks’ brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday. While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks’ preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.”
If it's true that Johnson's soured on Atlanta due to media and fan criticism of his poor play in the play-offs, he'd be in for a rude awakening in New York.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???
I think what Luke is saying, is that you appear to be living in a little dream world when it comes to this. For some reason, you are adamant that nothing is happening yet, when, in fact, everything is happening now, and will only become official on 7/1 or very soon after.

People talk. They are talking.

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Re: NBA Offseason Thread.

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Faceman wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???
I think what Luke is saying, is that you appear to be living in a little dream world when it comes to this. For some reason, you are adamant that nothing is happening yet, when, in fact, everything is happening now, and will only become official on 7/1 or very soon after.

People talk. They are talking.
No, I was saying that earlier. With the above particular reply I was saying, "No [expletive], it's Lebron's call."

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lukethedrifter wrote:
Faceman wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???
I think what Luke is saying, is that you appear to be living in a little dream world when it comes to this. For some reason, you are adamant that nothing is happening yet, when, in fact, everything is happening now, and will only become official on 7/1 or very soon after.

People talk. They are talking.
No, I was saying that earlier. With the above particular reply I was saying, "No [expletive], it's Lebron's call."
I'd argue that, but I cannot, and thus will not be worth much in this thread.

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Faceman wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Faceman wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???
I think what Luke is saying, is that you appear to be living in a little dream world when it comes to this. For some reason, you are adamant that nothing is happening yet, when, in fact, everything is happening now, and will only become official on 7/1 or very soon after.

People talk. They are talking.
No, I was saying that earlier. With the above particular reply I was saying, "No [expletive], it's Lebron's call."
I'd argue that, but I cannot, and thus will not be worth much in this thread.
You don't think it's Lebron's ultimate decision where he ends up? I don't follow.

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lukethedrifter wrote:
Faceman wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:The latest scuttlebutt from Chris Broussard, Dan Bernstein and a bunch of others is that LeBron to the Bulls is pretty much done. What they're working on now is whether the running mate will be Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.

Bulls was JJ, LeBron wants Bosh.

I’ve gotta be honest, Dan Bernstein reporting it is awesome because that guy is a stone cold realist and if he leans one way, it’s as a pessimist. Plus he has good sources within the organization. This is the first time I've allowed myself to really think it's going to happen. If he’s saying it, there’s truth to it. I think Joe Johnson maximizes LeBron’s value in the near future. While he’s still an elite player for the next three years, his ability to drain open three’s will open up a ton of space for LeBron and D Rose to operate. When they draw double teams in the post, he’ll be open for the three. It’d be awesome. If LeBron wants Bosh, though, I’d have no problem signing him instead. He’ll be more valuable for the length of the contract than Johnson, but I feel like his game would get lost in the shuffle of Rose and LeBron slashing. If we do sign him, they need someone to knock down three’s, so they should make a run at JJ Reddick. Hopefully Reinsdorf would go over the luxury tax for him. That team would win title after title, in my opinion.
I agree that Johnson/Rose/Lebron/Noah would be almost unstoppable.

Be be careful about what Bernstein, Broussard, etc. are saying. Even if they have "sources" within the organization, that means nothing...... because the organization hasn't had a chance to talk to Lebron yet. Unless they have sources within Lebron's entourage, then they don't have any more viable information than anybody else. Same goes for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron gets to make this decision...... not the Bulls (or the Knicks or the Heat, etc.). It's Lebron's call. Unless somebody knows what he's thinking, then everything is just speculation.

Whaaaaa???
???
I think what Luke is saying, is that you appear to be living in a little dream world when it comes to this. For some reason, you are adamant that nothing is happening yet, when, in fact, everything is happening now, and will only become official on 7/1 or very soon after.

People talk. They are talking.
No, I was saying that earlier. With the above particular reply I was saying, "No [expletive], it's Lebron's call."

Well, the previous post seemed to imply that the Bulls were calling the shots, and someone had an "inside source" to the shots they are calling, and how it would all shake down.

I'm simply trying to have a reasonable conversation on a message board, and you want to be a jerk about it. We're not in third grade......... can we be adults about this?

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Folks, I think we have about as much information as we'll have before Thursday to make educated guesses so lets get some predictions on where the big FAs end up.

Here's my take:

Lebron: Bulls
Wade: Heat
Bosh: Bulls
Nowitzki: Mavs
Johnson: Heat
Stoudemire: Knicks
Boozer: Heat

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