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Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 5:28 pm
by TimeForGuinness
Momo wrote:"Personnel dependent" is probably the correct way to view it. If you have a sterling rotation 1-5, you're not going to try bullpen shenanigans.
I still wonder though if that's what any clubs will target their personnel acquisitions towards, rather than looking to set up a traditional 1-5 rotation.
Yup, I definitely get it...I guess my point is you still have to pay for strikes. No matter how you slice it, it still costs roughly the same money. Whether you want to split those strikes between 1 or 2 guys, it still costs. There's an added benefit of keeping the opposing lineup off balance is a bonus, but that comes at a cost of additional volatility.
It's a narrow path to for an organization to walk...I'll be really interested in the outcome either way.
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 6:19 pm
by Momo
TimeForGuinness wrote:Momo wrote:"Personnel dependent" is probably the correct way to view it. If you have a sterling rotation 1-5, you're not going to try bullpen shenanigans.
I still wonder though if that's what any clubs will target their personnel acquisitions towards, rather than looking to set up a traditional 1-5 rotation.
Yup, I definitely get it...I guess my point is you still have to pay for strikes. No matter how you slice it, it still costs roughly the same money. Whether you want to split those strikes between 1 or 2 guys, it still costs. There's an added benefit of keeping the opposing lineup off balance is a bonus, but that comes at a cost of additional volatility.
It's a narrow path to for an organization to walk...I'll be really interested in the outcome either way.
I guess for now maybe it's one of those cost efficiency things?
At the moment, maybe if you can find the Andrew Millers, Mike Minors or even (pre-Cardinals) Brett Cecils early on, you might be getting a useful BP option where you obtain "strikes" for slightly cheaper than chasing the market standard of a traditional, great starter (or even cheaper than chasing the market standard for dominant closers!). But yeah, eventually though, like anything in baseball, if people figure out how to transform middling SPs into dominant RPs and shift rotation usage further down, the market will shift and they'll become super expensive too.
I suppose it's also about figuring out how to utilize your own sunk costs to an extent. Going back to the Dodgers example, you've got a team that's already significantly invested in Maeda and Ryu. Obviously they could afford to replace either or even both if they had to, but if you've got them, and you know how to maximize their value, you're going to try it. It's not something that everyone could replicate though for sure.
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 7:37 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 7:51 pm
by Jocephus
MLB.com's Jeffrey Flanagan reports the Royals are "working toward an agreement" with free agent Mike Moustakas.
Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports confirms that an offer has been made while Flanagan believes the Royals are looking to bring Moustakas back on a one-year deal. Nothing is official and Moustakas would still have to pass a physical but it certainly looks like the sides are moving toward a reunion. If a deal gets done, Moustakas will slide in at third base with Cheslor Cuthbert returning to a utility role.
Source: Jeffrey Flanagan on Twitter
Mar 8 - 8:46 PM
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 8:17 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Rockies are close to bringing back CarGo.
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 8:55 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 8:56 pm
by Jocephus
dang..ha...and he turned down a QO , right?
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 9:08 pm
by dmarx114
Jocephus wrote:dang..ha...and he turned down a QO , right?
Yup, $11 million mistake.
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 9:11 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
I can't fault him for not expecting this offseason to turn out how it did.
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Posted: March 8 18, 10:39 pm
by Jocephus
Now that the Houston Astros are starting the defense of their first ever World Series title, the question will be if the team suffers a hangover from their remarkable run.
But staff ace Dallas Keuchel said he does not expect a dip in the team's form in a declaration that will possibly also ruffle a few feathers over at Wrigley Field.
"We're not the Cubs," Dallas Keuchel told The Washington Post when asked about the Chicago Cubs returning almost the same team from their 2016 championship and winning 11 fewer games. "I firmly believe we have better players."
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2269 ... icago-cubs