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Maybe this is addressed in the other thread, but if McGwire will be the hitting coach, and since Holliday has worked with him during past off seasons, does that relationship help the team's chances in re-signing Holliday?

Gashouse wrote:Maybe this is addressed in the other thread, but if McGwire will be the hitting coach, and since Holliday has worked with him during past off seasons, does that relationship help the team's chances in re-signing Holliday?

I think it adds about a .0001% chance. He's either going to sign, or he's going to take $50m more from someone else. No amount of sentimentality will change that.

Gashouse wrote:Maybe this is addressed in the other thread, but if McGwire will be the hitting coach, and since Holliday has worked with him during past off seasons, does that relationship help the team's chances in re-signing Holliday?

I don't know if it helps any, but it can't hurt.

holliday: i can't quit you mark

I thought McGwire [expletive] ed up Holliday's swing.

lukethedrifter wrote:I thought McGwire [expletive] ed up Holliday's swing.

I think he's responsible for fixing it and messing it up. I think he initially had him try out the leg lift and then had him try to scrap it this year.

Yeah the leg-kick thing is funny. Mac had him do it a few years back and it was written how this transformed Holliday from a middling .800OPS hitter to an elite hitter. Then he goes to Oakland and sucks it up and they blame the leg kick for causing him to suck.

TheoSqua wrote:Yeah the leg-kick thing is funny. Mac had him do it a few years back and it was written how this transformed Holliday from a middling .800OPS hitter to an elite hitter. Then he goes to Oakland and sucks it up and they blame the leg kick for causing him to suck.

You're saying Mac taught him the leg kick? That's not at all what I heard.

lukethedrifter wrote:

TheoSqua wrote:Yeah the leg-kick thing is funny. Mac had him do it a few years back and it was written how this transformed Holliday from a middling .800OPS hitter to an elite hitter. Then he goes to Oakland and sucks it up and they blame the leg kick for causing him to suck.

You're saying Mac taught him the leg kick? That's not at all what I heard.

Yep, had him start using it a few years back. Then tried to get rid of it over the winter.

InvincibleCakeEater wrote:

lukethedrifter wrote:

TheoSqua wrote:Yeah the leg-kick thing is funny. Mac had him do it a few years back and it was written how this transformed Holliday from a middling .800OPS hitter to an elite hitter. Then he goes to Oakland and sucks it up and they blame the leg kick for causing him to suck.

You're saying Mac taught him the leg kick? That's not at all what I heard.

Yep, had him start using it a few years back. Then tried to get rid of it over the winter.

Got it. The bolded part is what I'm familiar with.