movies

[Popeye_Card]

Hot take: Even with its obvious flaws, TLJ is the 2nd best Star Wars movie (after ESB).

[cardsfantx]

Hot take: Even with its obvious flaws, TLJ is the 2nd best Star Wars movie (after ESB).

ewwww, nope

[cardsfantx]

Saw Knives Out today. Good old fashioned whodunit. It was just refreshing to see a movie that isn’t a reboot, remake, sequel or adaptation from something. The fact that this was done by the same goofball that f'ed up The Last Jedi makes me question if he really f'ed it up or if people behind the scenes were forcing him to turn it into garbage.

Also saw it this past weekend and really enjoyed it.

Counterpoint: TLJ is at least top 4 Star Wars, even with Finn's storyline being mediocre

no one cares, but if you take those plus the 2 spin offs, I'd rate the 10...

Empire Strikes Back
Rogue One
A New Hope
The Return Of The Jedi
Solo
Revenge Of The Sith
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
Attack Of The Clones
The Phantom Menace

[Popeye_Card]

Revenge of the Sith and Attack of the Clones are the worst two. Put them in whatever order. Phantom Menace was still crap, but at least not a flaming pile of crap like those two.

Including Rogue One, TLJ likely falls to third.

Here are the official tiers.

Great: ESB, Rogue One

Good with obvious flaws: TLJ

Nostalgia masks how mediocre these are: Force Awakens, New Hope, RotJ

So boring I fell asleep: Solo

Crap, but how [expletive] awesome was Darth Maul?: Phantom Menace

Flaming piles of crap: Revenge of the Sith, Attack of the Clones

[The Third Man]

My Star Wars rankings are that almost all of the non-AvP Alien films are better than any of them.

[stlouie_lipp]

Depending on if Rise of Skywalker changes my mind (and I'm not holding out much hope) I am about ready to call this trilogy a bust. Not to the level of the prequels, but close. Only good things about the reboot of the franchise are Rogue One, Solo, and Mandalorian.

[33anda3rd]

My Star Wars rankings are that almost all of the non-AvP Alien films are better than any of them.

Pretty weird that there are so many things you could make a Movie Religion out of--The transcendentalists, The French New Wave, The Italian Neorealists, Tarkovsky, The Hollywood Mavericks of the 1970s, Cassavetes, lots more, all of them meaningful and artistic and interesting and with something to say about the world--yet the one people most often choose is one that Popeye summed up perfectly: mediocre, sleep-inducing, flaming piles of crap. Dumb, simpleton stories that are mostly suitable for kids and their PG sensibilities.

[ghostrunner]

ANH is a mediocre story with mostly bad acting (like the prequels, which Lucas also directed) that establishes a rich, interesting world and gets most of its points off that. None of them are great movies but the better ones are fun and entertaining for what they are.

[Jocephus]

[stlouie_lipp]

ANH is a mediocre story with mostly bad acting (like the prequels, which Lucas also directed) that establishes a rich, interesting world and gets most of its points off that. None of them are great movies but the better ones are fun and entertaining for what they are.

The bad acting (especially Luke) is part of what makes ANH so great though.