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TimeForGuinness wrote:
JackofDiamonds wrote:I forgot to mention, I was out before the refs left. I am just going to stay out. I'm more interested in the Swedish A league hockey season than the NFL.
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JackofDiamonds wrote:
TimeForGuinness wrote:
JackofDiamonds wrote:I forgot to mention, I was out before the refs left. I am just going to stay out. I'm more interested in the Swedish A league hockey season than the NFL.
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TimeForGuinness wrote:
JackofDiamonds wrote:
TimeForGuinness wrote:
JackofDiamonds wrote:I forgot to mention, I was out before the refs left. I am just going to stay out. I'm more interested in the Swedish A league hockey season than the NFL.
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I'm really into this alternative spelunking leauge... you probably haven't heard of it. It's still pretty underground.


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Yeah, but I wasn't cool before you.
Not being cool is too mainstream.

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AdmiralKird wrote:Lockout probably ends this week. No way the Seahawks should have had that touchdown.

Also the mandatory point after needs to be taken out if that team has the lead. The league's taken so much effort to keep players from needlessly getting injured. Pointless.
Couldn't teams just line up in the victory formation?

Deadspin explained the rule and why that play was NOT a simultaneous catch.

http://deadspin.com/5946115/this-was-no ... eous-catch

And I just read today, can't remember where, that it's something like sixty grand that the NFL is debasing its product over.

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Both the money line and point spread bet winners were flipped on that final call. It's been estimated anywhere from 150 million to 1 billion in bets were affected. Although the casinos are quietly very happy because 80% of the action was on the Packers.

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This is hilarious. Scott Walker, union man.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/sc ... n-man.html

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Bad refs won't end the NFL lockout
The broad assumption is that this fateful play will hasten the end of the lockout. Maybe it should, and maybe it will. But from a business standpoint, the NFL doesn't have much more reason to budge than it did 48 hours ago. TV ratings are at record-highs. Sunday night's ratings were up 8% over a year ago. Viewers are furious, but they're also viewers, and the fans' indignation is more fleeting and harder to measure than ratings or ad dollars and TV licensing agreements.

"The NFL has essentially identified its product as being inelastic," said Eben Jose, a sports business analyst at IBISWorld. "They have no reason to really push a deal with the refs because TV ratings are better than ever."

Of course, the NFL has a keen interest in protecting its brand before it suffers a backlash (they already fired last night's referees). But the league is also making a business calculation: If NFL fans keep watching replacement-ref games, how much do they really value the more expensive referees? Why should we pay more money for the same financial returns?

I don't know any football fan who thinks the current NFL "product" is superior to last year. But collectively, we're consuming more of it. If you want the real refs back, the best thing you can do isn't to root for more errors. It's simply not to root at all. The loudest and clearest way to ask for a change is simply to change the channel.

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Supposedly the replay officials last night were "regular" officials (not replacements), and they blew the call just as badly as the replacements.

I understand people being upset, but I think that the uproar today has been over the top. I even heard one guy say that the entire season should have an asterisk. Relax......... it's still just football.

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Socnorb11 wrote:Supposedly the replay officials last night were "regular" officials (not replacements), and they blew the call just as badly as the replacements.

I understand people being upset, but I think that the uproar today has been over the top. I even heard one guy say that the entire season should have an asterisk. Relax......... it's still just football.
The reply officials are regular officials, but all they do is buzz the field refs if they think a scoring play needs review. The head official on the field still makes the final decision on the play after viewing the replays. Also, this official went right under the hood without conferring with the two idiots who blew the the call to start with.

I understand what you are saying regarding fan overreaction, but tell that to the coaches and players whose livelihood depends on the outcome of games.

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stlouie_lipp wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Supposedly the replay officials last night were "regular" officials (not replacements), and they blew the call just as badly as the replacements.

I understand people being upset, but I think that the uproar today has been over the top. I even heard one guy say that the entire season should have an asterisk. Relax......... it's still just football.
The reply officials are regular officials, but all they do is buzz the field refs if they think a scoring play needs review. The head official on the field still makes the final decision on the play after viewing the replays. Also, this official went right under the hood without conferring with the two idiots who blew the the call to start with.

I understand what you are saying regarding fan overreaction, but tell that to the coaches and players whose livelihood depends on the outcome of games.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

On another note, aren't defenders typically taught to bat the ball down on the Hail Mary? It seems like you're just asking for trouble by trying to make a circus catch and keeping the ball alive. That doesn't excuse the bad call, but players aren't without fault, either.
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