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docellis wrote:
Hungary Jack wrote:Hillary just won't take "no" for an answer.
That wouldn't be a bad thing in many ways.
Agreed. But not in this way.

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Cronos69 wrote:I don't follow the nomination races closely at all, but even I know that Hillary's doing nothing but harm to the party and its chances in November at this point.
Eh.... at this point, it's akin to the "harm" that a bug does to your windshield. Just my opinion, of course.

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Yeah, now that Hillary has backed off the negative campaigning she isn't really doing anything to hurt the party. I think at this point she's just going through the motions while holding out hope that Barack is revealed as a serial killer sometime before the convention, which is pretty much the only way she has to win this election.

I still find her rhetoric and excuse-making annoying though.

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I don't see any issue with her staying in the race until everyone has voted.

I have no problem with going after the republicans, and keeping a positive message until June 3rd. But please, don't attack Obama again (you or your camp), don't keep saying the math and criteria have changed in the primary, and quit saying how you are better in the "swing" states, and NEVER AGAIN as a democrat quote a mathematical scenario from Karl Rove as to the viability of your campaign!

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I am a little surprised she's still winning primaries after it's pretty much decided that Barack is the guy. Not sure that bodes well for him. You could argue his people are staying home, but then so should hers generally.

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ghostrunner wrote:I am a little surprised she's still winning primaries after it's pretty much decided that Barack is the guy. Not sure that bodes well for him. You could argue his people are staying home, but then so should hers generally.
Even from Obama's perspective, that's exactly why she should stay in the race for now. if she had dropped out a couple of weeks ago, I think she still would have won West Virginia and Kentucky and still been relatively close in Indiana - assuming that her name would still be on the ballot. That doesn't look good for the Obama campaign if he loses while he's unopposed. That actually happened to Slick Willy - he lost Connecticut after Tsongas had dropped out of the race in '92. Took him a little while to recover from that.

But yeah, I can't wait for hillary to go away. I don't want her to be the VP.

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ghostrunner wrote:I am a little surprised she's still winning primaries after it's pretty much decided that Barack is the guy. Not sure that bodes well for him. You could argue his people are staying home, but then so should hers generally.
What gashouse said - I guess sometimes voters just want to say 'Look at ME! I am SOMEBODY!!'

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clevername wrote:Clinton seems to ascribe to the belief that if you keep saying things enough they become true regardless of how completely off they are.
She learned that from her husband...

"I did NOT have sex with that woman"

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Gashouse wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:I am a little surprised she's still winning primaries after it's pretty much decided that Barack is the guy. Not sure that bodes well for him. You could argue his people are staying home, but then so should hers generally.
Even from Obama's perspective, that's exactly why she should stay in the race for now. if she had dropped out a couple of weeks ago, I think she still would have won West Virginia and Kentucky and still been relatively close in Indiana - assuming that her name would still be on the ballot. That doesn't look good for the Obama campaign if he loses while he's unopposed. That actually happened to Slick Willy - he lost Connecticut after Tsongas had dropped out of the race in '92. Took him a little while to recover from that.
Edwards was still on our ballot, so I would imagine Hillary would've been, too.

Can you imagine losing 35 points to no one? I had heard a pundit say right after the Indiana primary speak of that possibility, she's in the race until the end of the primaries to keep him from being crushed while running unopposed. That theory doesn't get much legs because it's more fun to say she's in denial about her situation. Although I wouldn't doubt the victories don't bouy her a bit.

Keep in mind she's putting up a lot of her own money so she's obviously commited to the cause. I respect her determination, it would have been easier to quit. As long as she keeps above the board against Obama, why does she have to quit?

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I hate that woman and I'd wish she'd go away. I'm tired of her lies and fuzzy math. She's trying to hide votes and twist numbers. I'm tired of her pandering for votes for stupid ideas like gas tax holidays. I'm tired of her trying to portray herself as a folksy everywoman when, in reality, she's a multi-millionaire with an ivy league education. I sick of her annointing herself as the champion of poor and uneducated white people. I'm tired of the fact that she keeps wasting money on a failed campaign.

I just want her to go away.

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