UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

[Ace]

Soooo, Wallace+Perez+Mortensen+Peterson+PTBNL = 3 wins this season?

[Ace]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4353256

I don't mind losing Mortensen at all.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I know Morty is no Haren...but I don't like giving pitchers to Oakland. It makes my skin crawl.

I'm not a fan either. Walrus for Holliday+cash is still a tad excessive... throwing in a MLB ready SP that could be a #3 starter within a few years is definitely over-doing it

Mortenson will never be a #3 pitcher. He is Thompson Jr.

[Swingingbunt]

Kurkjian reporting it's Holliday for Wallace, Peterson, and Mortenson as well. Color me unimpressed.

I don't like the three for one if Holliday is only going to be here two months.

[skmsw]

Mortenson and Peterson are bodies. I have no problem tossing them into a deal for any impact player.

In a way, I am happier trading Wallace for Holliday than I would be for Halladay . . . not entirely happier, but in a way. A 29-year old everyday player, impact bat, good on bases, with bat, and in field, a guy you can re-sign to be part of your core for five years or more (or else get two premium draft picks) . . . verses a soon-to-be 33 year old pitcher who is probably the best in baseball right now but is a pitcher not an everyday player, and is 32 not 29, and is a much more dubious re-sign when his contract is up.

[cards2468]

I know Morty is no Haren...but I don't like giving pitchers to Oakland. It makes my skin crawl.

I'm not a fan either. Walrus for Holliday+cash is still a tad excessive... throwing in a MLB ready SP that could be a #3 starter within a few years is definitely over-doing it

Mortenson will never be a #3 pitcher. He is Thompson Jr.

Unlike Thompson, he actually has some nasty stuff, he potentially can be a #3 starter.

[Radbird]

I would not mind that trade at all if it includes a 48-hour window to negotiate, or if the trade is announced something like "The Cardinals acquired Matt Holliday and announced that they've signed him to a four-year, $60mm contract extension with two option years."

Exactly what I'm hoping to hear if this is indeed a done deal.

[skmsw]

I know Morty is no Haren...but I don't like giving pitchers to Oakland. It makes my skin crawl.

I'm not a fan either. Walrus for Holliday+cash is still a tad excessive... throwing in a MLB ready SP that could be a #3 starter within a few years is definitely over-doing it

Mortenson will never be a #3 pitcher. He is Thompson Jr.

Unlike Thompson, he actually has some nasty stuff, he potentially can be a #3 starter.

In my opinion he was a high-floor/low-ceiling Luhnow special who should never, ever have been a first round draft pick. I really doubt he'll ever be missed.

[clevername]

unless we're talking potential 1 or 2, I don't like holding on to guys just because they could potentially be a 3 or less. They probably will end up being less, which in their case means 5th starter or bull pen fodder.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I know Morty is no Haren...but I don't like giving pitchers to Oakland. It makes my skin crawl.

I'm not a fan either. Walrus for Holliday+cash is still a tad excessive... throwing in a MLB ready SP that could be a #3 starter within a few years is definitely over-doing it

Mortenson will never be a #3 pitcher. He is Thompson Jr.

Unlike Thompson, he actually has some nasty stuff, he potentially can be a #3 starter.

I disagree. And nothing you can say will change my mind. I've seen them both pitch. And, in no way was Mortenson's stuff better than Thompson. Just my opinion though.