Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[jim]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

Maybe, but I feel the old pendulum swinging back to the middle. I think the GOP is starving for a sensible and more centrist candidate. They got it in McCain, I think he would have been better off sticking to his guns and just presenting who he really is to the people and letting the chips fall where they may. I think he wins with that strategy, because who are the far right going to vote for? They have no choice, he gets their vote.

[Freed Roger]

thanks letsgo. articles by the American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute. Bush's top advisor think tanks.

So the Kos-bots turning this thread into a liberal blog RSS feed is cool, but not my articles from the Wall Street Journal?

No idea what a kos-bot is. As a long time reader of WSJ, I can tell you that the editorial pages are not articles, but opinion columns.
Usually written by right-wing think tanks/propagandists. The two you posted are regulars. They aren't articles, any more than Joe Nimrod's letter to editor in the Post-Dispatch. Is a Paul Krugman column an article?

Found this on the American Institute wiki entry - (if it was wrong, I'm sure they'd have fixed it)

More than twenty AEI alumni and current visiting scholars and fellows have served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.[3] Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar, and Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, is a senior fellow.[4]

Some real credible impartial sources there.

Over the years of reading their stuff "ideas"-of course - no taxation of anything investment-related. De-regulation of Wall Street to extreme. They favored charging into Iraq (and beyond) with our military. deficits don't matter, because the silent hand will pay for them. Basically they were proponents of everything that led to all that's eff-ed up today.

I do like varying opinions from credible sources. And sorry Letsgo, I know a lot of opinions predominantly left of center are posted here. But we all know they are opinions. at least I think we do. I just want to clarify - WSJ editorial page is opinion, not News or some sort of documentation of fact.

[BW23]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

Maybe, but I feel the old pendulum swinging back to the middle. I think the GOP is starving for a sensible and more centrist candidate. They got it in McCain, I think he would have been better off sticking to his guns and just presenting who he really is to the people and letting the chips fall where they may. I think he wins with that strategy, because who are the far right going to vote for? They have no choice, he gets their vote.

I couldn't disagree more. The reason the GOP doesn't have a good candidate this time was because of the cries for someone near the middle.

The GOP needs to get back to the ideals that many on the right believe in. No more John McCains.

[Richie Allen]

Well, those that think McCain and Palin are losing because of where they've positioned themselves within the party are wrong. They're losing because they're not good politicians. McCain's moving to the right did nothing beneficial and adding Palin, as right as she claims to be, also helped nothing. McCain staying down the middle might have made him look more like the Maverick he claims to be and might have won over some independents but also might have lost him some of his support among the far right (who've never liked him much).

The Republican party is a mess right now and it probably didn't matter who the nominee was, right, middle or anywhere else but it also didn't help to have such a poor candidate who eventually chose a much worse running mate. The party needs an exciting candidate more than they need one that simply positions themselves correctly within the party.

[Richie Allen]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

If she wasn't so stupid, I might agree with you.

[GatewaySnayke]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

Maybe, but I feel the old pendulum swinging back to the middle. I think the GOP is starving for a sensible and more centrist candidate. They got it in McCain, I think he would have been better off sticking to his guns and just presenting who he really is to the people and letting the chips fall where they may. I think he wins with that strategy, because who are the far right going to vote for? They have no choice, he gets their vote.

I couldn't disagree more. The reason the GOP doesn't have a good candidate this time was because of the cries for someone near the middle.

The GOP needs to get back to the ideals that many on the right believe in. No more John McCains.

Yes, because after eight years of an ultra neo-con administration, the American people wanted more.

What people on the right believe and the majority of Americans believe are two different things.

[BW23]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

Maybe, but I feel the old pendulum swinging back to the middle. I think the GOP is starving for a sensible and more centrist candidate. They got it in McCain, I think he would have been better off sticking to his guns and just presenting who he really is to the people and letting the chips fall where they may. I think he wins with that strategy, because who are the far right going to vote for? They have no choice, he gets their vote.

I couldn't disagree more. The reason the GOP doesn't have a good candidate this time was because of the cries for someone near the middle.

The GOP needs to get back to the ideals that many on the right believe in. No more John McCains.

Yes, because after eight years of an ultra neo-con administration, the American people wanted more.

What people on the right believe and the majority of Americans believe are two different things.

Yeah, Bush really did what the right wanted.

Yes, what people on the right believe and what most Americans believe are two different things. Yet, there's only been 8 years of a Democratic presidency in the last 28. This is the first time in that time they've thrown out a guy this close to the middle. I don't know any conservatives, true conservatives anyway, that were happy with this selection.

And those are really his only supporters. And it's mostly because of the fear of an Obama presidency. They picked a guy close to the middle, and the middle didn't work. It was stupid from the start.

[BW23]

Well, those that think McCain and Palin are losing because of where they've positioned themselves within the party are wrong. They're losing because they're not good politicians. McCain's moving to the right did nothing beneficial and adding Palin, as right as she claims to be, also helped nothing. McCain staying down the middle might have made him look more like the Maverick he claims to be and might have won over some independents but also might have lost him some of his support among the far right (who've never liked him much).

The Republican party is a mess right now and it probably didn't matter who the nominee was, right, middle or anywhere else but it also didn't help to have such a poor candidate who eventually chose a much worse running mate. The party needs an exciting candidate more than they need one that simply positions themselves correctly within the party.

They need an exciting candidate that positions himself correctly within the party. It's not an either/or situation.

And if McCain had stayed in the middle he wouldn't have lost support among the far right. The far right hasn't and isn't supporting him because of some supposed shift from the middle to the right. They're supporting him because he's not Obama. Plain and simple.

[KyCardinalFan]

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

You mean, "being a maverick"? *shock*

Full Story.

[clement]

I'm tellin' ya. Palin is the future face of the neo-cons.

I hope you're right, but I don't think so.