Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[planet planet]

My preferred method would be a consumption tax, but that's neither here nor there.

I don't think the consumption tax is the answer. You'd have a great deal of people paying a much higher percentage of their income (the lower and middle classes) than the wealthy. I also take issue with single issue voters. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but you're a relatively young man. Why would the death tax and capital gains tax be your deciding factor?

[Radbird]

Could be an interesting debate. How aggressive will McCain be?

McCain calls Obama a liar, faults his Chicago ties

[G. Keenan]

Could be an interesting debate. How aggressive will McCain be?

McCain calls Obama a liar, faults his Chicago ties

I have lost any respect I ever had for John McCain. He speaks endlessly of the importance of honor while engaging in some of the most undignified campaigning I can recall. I refuse to believe that he thinks Sarah Palin would be a capable president. Hence, his nomination of her for VP represents the height of cynicism and zero sum politics.

At what point does honor run out?

[docellis]

Palin for President 2012

[sighyoung]

Palin for President 2012

Will Alaska have seceded by then?

[Radbird]

Palin for President 2012

Will Alaska have seceded by then?

Maybe doc meant she'll be president of the Republic of Alaska. I'm sure they won't want to remain in the union after Obama wins.

[Radbird]

From Newsweek:

Will McCain's New Anti-Obama Strategy Work?

[UK]

Could be an interesting debate. How aggressive will McCain be?

McCain calls Obama a liar, faults his Chicago ties

I have lost any respect I ever had for John McCain. He speaks endlessly of the importance of honor while engaging in some of the most undignified campaigning I can recall. I refuse to believe that he thinks Sarah Palin would be a capable president. Hence, his nomination of her for VP represents the height of cynicism and zero sum politics.

At what point does honor run out?

His honor as a veteran will always be there, his honor as a campaigning politician doesn't exist anymore.

[Jocephus]

Countdown: Special Comment on Sarah Palin Oct. 6, 2008

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[G. Keenan]

Could be an interesting debate. How aggressive will McCain be?

McCain calls Obama a liar, faults his Chicago ties

I have lost any respect I ever had for John McCain. He speaks endlessly of the importance of honor while engaging in some of the most undignified campaigning I can recall. I refuse to believe that he thinks Sarah Palin would be a capable president. Hence, his nomination of her for VP represents the height of cynicism and zero sum politics.

At what point does honor run out?

His honor as a veteran will always be there, his honor as a campaigning politician doesn't exist anymore.

At the risk of blowing the forum up I want to ask a question about his honor in Vietnam.

What is honor? Can one achieve it in the process of committing an immoral act? Certainly one can be brave, valiant, loyal. The Vietnam war was profoundly immoral. I don't mean to diminish the bravery and sacrifice of the men and women who fought and died there. They are all braver people than I. Perhaps they can have honor as individuals, but as a country, there is no honor in what America did in Vietnam. It is and should be a national shame.