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Two things I was reminded of when reading the last few posts.

One, I saw Howard Fineman from Newsweek on MSNBC last night. He said he'd spoke with Katie Couric who was also at the VP debate. She told him that after the first interview aired, Palin came back to Couric and asked to speak again because she said she could do better. Couric said she was surprised that Palin asked for another interview.

Two, on Hardball with Chris Matthews thay have "The Big Number" at the end of their "SideShow" segment; news from these distracting side issue moments in the campaign. A couple of weeks ago the big number was the number of cars each candidate had in their garage. The big number was McCain's 13 (as opposed to Obama's one). But I thought the big number missed the more relevant point. Obama's vehicle was a Ford SUV hybrid, whereas McCain's included a Honda and another foreign-made car (my memory fails me) when he's told Michigan voters he buys American.

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KyCardinalFan wrote:Two things I was reminded of when reading the last few posts.

One, I saw Howard Fineman from Newsweek on MSNBC last night. He said he'd spoke with Katie Couric who was also at the VP debate. She told him that after the first interview aired, Palin came back to Couric and asked to speak again because she said she could do better. Couric said she was surprised that Palin asked for another interview.

Two, on Hardball with Chris Matthews thay have "The Big Number" at the end of their "SideShow" segment; news from these distracting side issue moments in the campaign. A couple of weeks ago the big number was the number of cars each candidate had in their garage. The big number was McCain's 13 (as opposed to Obama's one). But I thought the big number missed the more relevant point. Obama's vehicle was a Ford SUV hybrid, whereas McCain's included a Honda and another foreign-made car (my memory fails me) when he's told Michigan voters he buys American.
Hondas pretty much are American made at this point.

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ghostrunner wrote:
KyCardinalFan wrote:Two things I was reminded of when reading the last few posts.

One, I saw Howard Fineman from Newsweek on MSNBC last night. He said he'd spoke with Katie Couric who was also at the VP debate. She told him that after the first interview aired, Palin came back to Couric and asked to speak again because she said she could do better. Couric said she was surprised that Palin asked for another interview.

Two, on Hardball with Chris Matthews thay have "The Big Number" at the end of their "SideShow" segment; news from these distracting side issue moments in the campaign. A couple of weeks ago the big number was the number of cars each candidate had in their garage. The big number was McCain's 13 (as opposed to Obama's one). But I thought the big number missed the more relevant point. Obama's vehicle was a Ford SUV hybrid, whereas McCain's included a Honda and another foreign-made car (my memory fails me) when he's told Michigan voters he buys American.
Hondas pretty much are American made at this point.
Tell that to the people of Michigan. They don't want to hear it.

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ghostrunner wrote:
KyCardinalFan wrote:Two things I was reminded of when reading the last few posts.

One, I saw Howard Fineman from Newsweek on MSNBC last night. He said he'd spoke with Katie Couric who was also at the VP debate. She told him that after the first interview aired, Palin came back to Couric and asked to speak again because she said she could do better. Couric said she was surprised that Palin asked for another interview.

Two, on Hardball with Chris Matthews thay have "The Big Number" at the end of their "SideShow" segment; news from these distracting side issue moments in the campaign. A couple of weeks ago the big number was the number of cars each candidate had in their garage. The big number was McCain's 13 (as opposed to Obama's one). But I thought the big number missed the more relevant point. Obama's vehicle was a Ford SUV hybrid, whereas McCain's included a Honda and another foreign-made car (my memory fails me) when he's told Michigan voters he buys American.
Hondas pretty much are American made at this point.

Yeah, but I think they're non-union workers in the south.

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Here's the full story. Technically, there's only one in his name. Plausible deniability?
Washington Post wrote:13 Cars for the McCains--and not all American
By Michael D. Shear

First it was his seven houses. Now, Sen. John McCain has to explain his fleet of 13 cars.

According to a Newsweek item published online today, McCain and his wife, Cindy, own more than a dozen cars, including three electric bubble-shaped cars, called GEM's that the magazine says are popular in retirement communities.

But the ones getting him into trouble are the foreign-made cars. According to the magazine, the McCains own a Honda sedan and a Volkswagen convertible -- despite having once claimed to always buy American-made cars.

In an interview with Detroit station WXYZ-TV, McCain bragged that "I've bought American literally all my life and I'm proud." That was after explaining to the anchor that his daughter, Meghan, bought her own Toyota Prius.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger, in a conference call organized by the Democratic party, blasted McCain on Sunday for not being truthful with voters.

"When he's in the midwest, he tells voters he supports the industry," Gettelfinger told reporters. "That's really a nice campaign line. But it turns out that John McCain wasn't being straight with the people of Detroit."

Gettelfinger cast McCain as an enemy of auto workers for supporting trade deals that he said would ship jobs overseas.

"We need a president who's committed to rebuilding the auto industry in America, not a president who buys foreign cars and then falsifies the truth when he thinks auto workers aren't watching," he said.

The magazine reported that the only car in McCain's name is a Cadillac. The others are in Cindy McCain's name. Another Japanese car -- a Lexus that Cindy McCain drives with the plates 'Ms BUD' -- is registered to the beer distribution company that she heads.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said the senator's comments to the Detroit TV station were referring to the one car in his name: the Cadillac. "And [he] has in the past driven Corvettes and other American cars," Rogers said. McCain aides said some of the 13 cars are actually used by their four children and others are "recreational
vehicles and pickups and such" that they use on their vacation property in Sedona.

Newsweek noted that the Obamas own a single car--a 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid.

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KyCardinalFan wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
KyCardinalFan wrote:Two things I was reminded of when reading the last few posts.

One, I saw Howard Fineman from Newsweek on MSNBC last night. He said he'd spoke with Katie Couric who was also at the VP debate. She told him that after the first interview aired, Palin came back to Couric and asked to speak again because she said she could do better. Couric said she was surprised that Palin asked for another interview.

Two, on Hardball with Chris Matthews thay have "The Big Number" at the end of their "SideShow" segment; news from these distracting side issue moments in the campaign. A couple of weeks ago the big number was the number of cars each candidate had in their garage. The big number was McCain's 13 (as opposed to Obama's one). But I thought the big number missed the more relevant point. Obama's vehicle was a Ford SUV hybrid, whereas McCain's included a Honda and another foreign-made car (my memory fails me) when he's told Michigan voters he buys American.
Hondas pretty much are American made at this point.
Tell that to the people of Michigan. They don't want to hear it.
IIRC, most Hondas sold in the US are made in Ohio by union workers. Maybe the people in Michigan consider the non-union workers building cars in places like Alabama and Tennessee to be non-Americans.

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i've neglected this thread, so i'm adding some much needed seriousness to the election discussion.

PRESIDENTIAL ANAGRAMANIA
mccain stares, is spellbound
rearrange the letters to get:
[SHOW]
ms palin's breasts, i conclude

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StatmanCrothers wrote:i've neglected this thread, so i'm adding some much needed seriousness to the election discussion.

PRESIDENTIAL ANAGRAMANIA
mccain stares, is spellbound
rearrange the letters to get:
[SHOW]
ms palin's breasts, i conclude

=D> =D> =D>

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obucard wrote:
StatmanCrothers wrote:i've neglected this thread, so i'm adding some much needed seriousness to the election discussion.

PRESIDENTIAL ANAGRAMANIA
mccain stares, is spellbound
rearrange the letters to get:
[SHOW]
ms palin's breasts, i conclude

=D> =D> =D>
statman is the best. I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type....

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This McCain Pulling Out Of Michigan has got to be leading to a ploy of some sort. Especially considering Palin disagreed with his decision publicly.

Look for something in the next couple weeks with her and him both in Michigan with him boasting about her insight and how she can be very convincing and persuaded him that they can indeed win the great state of Michigan. They'll also brag about how they don't necessarily see eye to eye on everything but they know how to come together and find common ground. Basically, a team of Mavericks.

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