Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[fulldeck]

Whether you agree with Mccain's position on the war or not doesn't matter. The POW thing is mentioned because it shaped him and because it puts him in the light of having formed his decision while being sympathetic to the tragedies of war. This isn't some favored son who's never faced horror and atrocity. Whether you agree with him or not, you do have to acknowledge that he has an understanding of the horror of war. That's why it is constantly highlighted.

Obama growing up as a black man in America probably had a great deal to do with shaping him. He's certainly not playing that card....... not once. Why? Because he doesn't stand to gain politically from it. McCain stands to gain political leverege from being a POW.

You really cannot compare these two things to each other.

Why can't you?

What possibly could Obama have dealt with growing up to compare to what McCain suffered through during his 5 1/2 years as a Prisoner of War?

[Numbers]

Does John McCain actually know when the Russian Empire was? And does he know that it hasn't existed for close to 100 years?

We must stop Czar Putin!

I'm opposed to the eye roll icon, but this is where I would use it.

Are you mocking me or McCain?

You, but only because I'm safe behind my computer screen where I don't have to face the consequences. I was just implying that Russia has been in recent history, and still is a legitimate threat.

Yeah, that's true. Although I think they bear watching, that was maybe a bit hyperbolic.

Sure, but the Russian Empire? I can see them wanting to go back to being a communist or fascist country, but a two-week skirmish against Georgia isn't evidence enough of them re-starting the Empire.

[Numbers]

Does John McCain actually know when the Russian Empire was? And does he know that it hasn't existed for close to 100 years?

We must stop Czar Putin!

I'm opposed to the eye roll icon, but this is where I would use it.

Are you mocking me or McCain?

You, but only because I'm safe behind my computer screen where I don't have to face the consequences. I was just implying that Russia has been in recent history, and still is a legitimate threat.

Yeah, that's true. Although I think they bear watching, that was maybe a bit hyperbolic.

Sure, but the Russian Empire? I can see them wanting to go back to being a communist or fascist country, but a two-week skirmish against Georgia isn't evidence enough of them re-starting the Empire.

[PujolJunkie]

Guys, honestly, let's face it.

60 days til election time.

The debates are still to come.

We haven't seen a mass of state polling in weeks.

This is just starting.

[clement]

Whether you agree with Mccain's position on the war or not doesn't matter. The POW thing is mentioned because it shaped him and because it puts him in the light of having formed his decision while being sympathetic to the tragedies of war. This isn't some favored son who's never faced horror and atrocity. Whether you agree with him or not, you do have to acknowledge that he has an understanding of the horror of war. That's why it is constantly highlighted.

Obama growing up as a black man in America probably had a great deal to do with shaping him. He's certainly not playing that card....... not once. Why? Because he doesn't stand to gain politically from it. McCain stands to gain political leverege from being a POW.

You really cannot compare these two things to each other.

Why can't you?

What possibly could Obama have dealt with growing up to compare to what McCain suffered through during his 5 1/2 years as a Prisoner of War?

So it's about the suffering he endured? I don't understand.

[Socnorb11]

Whether you agree with Mccain's position on the war or not doesn't matter. The POW thing is mentioned because it shaped him and because it puts him in the light of having formed his decision while being sympathetic to the tragedies of war. This isn't some favored son who's never faced horror and atrocity. Whether you agree with him or not, you do have to acknowledge that he has an understanding of the horror of war. That's why it is constantly highlighted.

Obama growing up as a black man in America probably had a great deal to do with shaping him. He's certainly not playing that card....... not once. Why? Because he doesn't stand to gain politically from it. McCain stands to gain political leverege from being a POW.

You really cannot compare these two things to each other.

Why can't you?

What possibly could Obama have dealt with growing up to compare to what McCain suffered through during his 5 1/2 years as a Prisoner of War?

I'm not saying that he suffered as much, or in the same way. I'm just saying that growing up as a black man in a mostly white America surely shaped who he is.

[ghostrunner]

I think McCain of 2000 would have done better. His age is showing more these days.

I <3 2000 McCain. did you know I worked on his campaign? That feels like ages ago.

I hate to say he's changed a little for the worse in other ways. I'd like to think if he gets elected, we see that guy again.

[docellis]

I wish we still had McCain of 2000.

me too

edit: i still have the t-shirt

[Socnorb11]

I think the Republican Convention energized both parties. That's a good thing.

What I don't get is how McCain can try to distance himself from the mess that Bush made, when he's voted with Bush 90% of the time.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

I think McCain of 2000 would have done better. His age is showing more these days.

I <3 2000 McCain. did you know I worked on his campaign? That feels like ages ago.

That's really weird. I was talking with a friend the other day about thinking earlier in the year that I would be fine with McCain or Obama and just how disenchanted with McCain I have become.