maddash wrote:
So you're willing to split music into different sub genres, but not rap in to different sub genres? Why is that?
It's not that I'm not willing to, I'm just not sure I've got the time or know-how.
I understand how some people could, though.
So you understand that while you're being grossly unfair to rap artists, you're willing to live with that for the sack of economizing your time.
Not something I'd feel right doing, but I can't it's not a valid choice.
How am I being unfair to them? I've already said that I'm sure some of them are fine.
And yes, my time is FAR more valuable than any debt that you feel that I may owe to the rap community.
You've created some weird paradox where you feel you can get away with saying "some of them are fine", while also saying that you don't have the time to make a distinction between the vulgar rappers and clean ones.
wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.
Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.
I'm very confused by this. You've claimed ignorance about rap about a million times in this thread. But then you state matter-of-factly that it's more inappropriate for the public than any other music genre. Which is it? Either you're ignorant about the genre, or you know enough about it to condemn it as being inappropriate for the public? You can't have it both ways.
wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.
Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.
wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.
Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.
I'm very confused by this. You've claimed ignorance about rap about a million times in this thread. But then you state matter-of-factly that it's more inappropriate for the public than any other music genre. Which is it? Either you're ignorant about the genre, or you know enough about it to condemn it as being inappropriate for the public? You can't have it both ways.
I've heard some of the lyrics. That's all I really need to know, isn't it? While I don't claim to have much knowledge about rap music, I've seen the lyrics.
I don't know much about electricity either, but I won't be sticking my tongue in a light socket.
I remember hearing this program about the science behind music and why we like it or dislike it. its explained in layman's terms.
It tells of how when Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" debuted - the crowd rioted. the groundbreaking music was foreign to them and repulsive to a new audience. Within a year the ears became accustomed to it and grew to like it.
its pretty interesting. check it out.
wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.
Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.
Depends on what rap song vs. what rock song is being played at high volumes. Don't you think? There are tons of rock songs with very vulgar lyrics.
maddash wrote:
You've created some weird paradox where you feel you can get away with saying "some of them are fine", while also saying that you don't have the time to make a distinction between the vulgar rappers and clean ones.
I don't think you can have it both ways.
It's the same as anything else. Like I said, I don't know all of the kids that hang around at the park at night. I do know that there's been a lot of vandalism down there. I'm sure some of the kids are fine. I don't have the time or inclination to go down to the park and get to know them all.
But if they're going to hang out in the park at night with the vandals, they're going to be prone to being stereotyped.
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wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.
Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.
Depends on what rap song vs. what rock song is being played at high volumes. Don't you think? There are tons of rock songs with very vulgar lyrics.
That's true. I'm sure there are some vulgarities in metal. I don't listen to that stuff, either.
Socnorb11 wrote:I've heard some of the lyrics. That's all I really need to know, isn't it? While I don't claim to have much knowledge about rap music, I've seen the lyrics.
I don't know much about electricity either, but I won't be sticking my tongue in a light socket.
A more á propos analogy would be going to three Cardinals games, watching Aaron Miles have three great games, watching Albert Pujols have three poor ones, and stating matter of factly that Miles is the superior player.
