Music talk Thread

[pioneer98]

[pioneer98]

I guess I'm never going to get the Nirvana thing. Maybe I was just a little too young when it came out? Don't get me wrong I don't dislike it, but I don't love it either. It seems like for the last few weeks I've been hearing a lot, and a lot of people fawning over it as if it's the greatest album ever. I'm also a musician so it double confuses me because a lot of my music buddies are all about it, but I just don't get anything special by it. I'll totally rock out to Smells Like Teen Spirit though.

It's the 30th anniversary of Nevermind. I lived through it and for those of us who remember watching MTV just prior to its' release appreciate what that album did. John Stewart hosted a round table on XM with Novoselic and Grohl. He started the conversation by saying that the MTV music awards show the year prior honored Poison, Vanilla Ice and C&C Music Factory - a "band" that basically admits music was being made in a factory. Their impact on music at the time was incredible.

Yes this is correct but I still maintain that there were many popular "alternative" bands prior to Nevermind. The bands I'm referring to sold a ton of albums but did not break through to that superstar level of the Grammies or other major awards. I will die on this hill but Guns N Roses were the first to give a giant middle finger to hair bands (album cover for Appetite for Destruction is literally skeletons dressed like a hair band). Appetite for Destruction was the beginning of the end of hair bands, and Nevermind was the end of the end.

Then there were many other transitional bands in between like Faith No More, REM, Sonic Youth, Jane's Addiction, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 10,000 Maniacs and so on. These bands had their niche and did OK but were on the B stage prior to Nevermind. Nevermind broke through and elevated all these alternative bands to top billing and flushed away the remnants of the hair bands and other shallow trash.

[BottenFieldofDreams]

You know what's great, but has an unfortunate genre name?: low-fi hip hop beats to study and relax to.

I listen to it all the time at work.

[mikechamp]

You know what's great, but has an unfortunate genre name?: low-fi hip hop beats to study and relax to.

I listen to it all the time at work.

I'm unfamiliar with that. Is that considered a different genre than downtempo/deep house? And if so, is there much of a difference?

[BottenFieldofDreams]

You know what's great, but has an unfortunate genre name?: low-fi hip hop beats to study and relax to.

I listen to it all the time at work.

I'm unfamiliar with that. Is that considered a different genre than downtempo/deep house? And if so, is there much of a difference?

It doesn't move at all like club music, though I'm not very familiar with sub-House genres--or primary house genres for that matter. Much more cafe vibes over a dusty vinyl hip hop beat. Really good stuff, some of it. I think maybe it's really just called low fi or low fi beats.

There's a YouTube channel called ChilledCow and a Spotify playlist called Low Fi Gir's Favorites with mostly good stuff.

edit: turns out ChilledCow is now LoFi Girl

[mikechamp]

That was cool. What's the name of the artist?

Does this genre typically stay instrumental?

If you dig something like the song below, I've got a bunch of downtempo stuff you might like.

[Superorganism]

Lofi is my favorite part of modern internet culture. Everyone seems to love it.

[heyzeus]

Unpopular opinion time! The pixies should have been Nirvana. They should have been hailed as the legends who ushered in the alternative revolution. They were better musically. They did it first.

But they we’re not conventionally attractive (ok, Kim Deal was) so it didn’t happen.

[haltz]

Unpopular opinion time! The pixies should have been Nirvana. They should have been hailed as the legends who ushered in the alternative revolution. They were better musically. They did it first.

But they we’re not conventionally attractive (ok, Kim Deal was) so it didn’t happen.

They were definitely doing the loud/quiet thing for several years before Nevermind, not that they invented it -- maybe that version of it -- and we all know what Kurt Cobain said. Crazy that Surfer Rosa was 1988.

[heyzeus]

Unpopular opinion time! The pixies should have been Nirvana. They should have been hailed as the legends who ushered in the alternative revolution. They were better musically. They did it first.

But they we’re not conventionally attractive (ok, Kim Deal was) so it didn’t happen.

They were definitely doing the loud/quiet thing for several years before Nevermind, not that they invented it -- maybe that version of it -- and we all know what Kurt Cobain said. Crazy that Surfer Rosa was 1988.

Come on Pilgrim to Surfer Rosa to Doolittle was 18 months. A groundbreaking EP and two all-time classic albums in a year and a half! How!