Music talk Thread

[Famous Mortimer]

That's fair - but I keep hoping at least one musician from that era wouldn't turn into one of those "I'm saying these awful things just to be provocative" types (see: King Buzzo, Josh Homme, etc.)

While we weren't talking about new music, Eskimo Callboy have just released their new tune, "We Got The Moves". They've decided to mix metalcore with Scooter-style eurodance beats, make comedy videos, and generally have a great time. Highly recommended.

[ghostrunner]

Miley did fine with this song. Phoebe sent it into the Field of Dreams corn. Might not be for everyone (though I'd suggest listening through to see the build), but I think it's incredible.

Yeah, that works. I've been getting into her stuff lately. The two things I'm into right now are a 70s disco/soul/funk playlist, and female-led bedroom pop. Pop/rock with female vocals has always been my thing though. There's tons of exceptions either way but generally their voices are just better IMO.

Re: the 70s playlist, for whatever reason I've missed the boat on Bobby Womack my whole life. A real [expletive] of a personal life apparently, but what a talent

[mikechamp]

Because I know @heyzeus will care:

Manic Street Preachers: 'A Design For Life saved us'

The Manic Street Preachers found themselves at a traumatic crossroads in 1995.

Anarchic lyricist Richey Edwards, who along with bass player Nicky Wire had been the chief songwriter behind their most recent and most iconoclastic album, 1994's The Holy Bible, was suddenly missing. The post-punk rockers had previously played without Edwards at a festival when he had checked into The Priory due to problems with alcoholism and self-harming (he once carved the words "4 Real" into his arm with a knife during an interview with NME journalist Steve Lamacq).

But the prospect of going on without him while an investigation into his disappearance was ongoing was another matter entirely.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58460903

[heyzeus]

Because I know @heyzeus will care:

Manic Street Preachers: 'A Design For Life saved us'

The Manic Street Preachers found themselves at a traumatic crossroads in 1995.

Anarchic lyricist Richey Edwards, who along with bass player Nicky Wire had been the chief songwriter behind their most recent and most iconoclastic album, 1994's The Holy Bible, was suddenly missing. The post-punk rockers had previously played without Edwards at a festival when he had checked into The Priory due to problems with alcoholism and self-harming (he once carved the words "4 Real" into his arm with a knife during an interview with NME journalist Steve Lamacq).

But the prospect of going on without him while an investigation into his disappearance was ongoing was another matter entirely.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58460903

"If You Tolerate This..." is still an absolute jam.

[BottenFieldofDreams]

I imagine I've posted many times about The Weakerthans. Sometimes I just don't listen to anything else.

Check out this series. Here's the YouTube poster's perfect description:

A tetralogy of songs; 3 written from the perspective of a depressed alcoholic's pet cat, and 1 written from the perspective of the alcoholic themself, as they attend court-mandated rehab and begin to slowly recover their strength.

Something that went right past me: 'I can't remember the sound that you made for me'--that's the cat talking about the depressed guy's name for it.

So listen
All these bitter songs you sing
they're not helping anything
they won't make you
strong

Beautiful stuff.

[pioneer98]

I think Cobain was a good fella - he was very good on homophobia, as I recall.

I think his heart was in a good place, mostly at least. His gospel of not selling out and being provocative, I just don't know how well it could age. I'm not sure he would have handled that first PC era in around 2000 or especially the modern one well. I don't think he could get songs with provocative sentiments like Rape Me past millennials.

Interesting to think about, anyway. He was an incredibly potent cultural influence when/where I came up.

Nirvana's trajectory would have been like either Smashing Pumpkins or Radiohead. These two other hugely influential bands who did unconventional/non-conforming things after they peaked to avoid being labeled as "selling out". It would have just depended on how well-received the unconventional things they did would have been. I think whatever Nirvana did would have been highly acclaimed just because the critics loved them, meaning they'd have ended up more like the Radiohead trajectory.

[BottenFieldofDreams]

I think Cobain was a good fella - he was very good on homophobia, as I recall.

I think his heart was in a good place, mostly at least. His gospel of not selling out and being provocative, I just don't know how well it could age. I'm not sure he would have handled that first PC era in around 2000 or especially the modern one well. I don't think he could get songs with provocative sentiments like Rape Me past millennials.

Interesting to think about, anyway. He was an incredibly potent cultural influence when/where I came up.

Nirvana's trajectory would have been like either Smashing Pumpkins or Radiohead. These two other hugely influential bands who did unconventional/non-conforming things after they peaked to avoid being labeled as "selling out". It would have just depended on how well-received the unconventional things they did would have been. I think whatever Nirvana did would have been highly acclaimed just because the critics loved them, meaning they'd have ended up more like the Radiohead trajectory.

It's also possible Cobain could have been grandfathered into safe provocation like South Park.

[BottenFieldofDreams]

A tour is cool. But I'm so goddam excited for the new music I'm going to pop. Last time Frusciante left and came back they delivered Californication. Flea and Frusciante together is pure magic, unlike anything else in the history of noise. And now Flea has been to music school and learned theory. Frusciante is possibly aging out of his slight [expletive] should be weird as [expletive] proclivities. It could maybe not be great like some of the phoned-in stuff they've made over the last 20 years, but I'm going to go down hopeful.

[heyzeus]

btw, Nevermind came outr 30 years ago today. Ya old.

Here's a good article about a concert they played the night before that album came out and changed them, and everything, forever.

https://www.theringer.com/music/2021/9/ ... on-concert

[pioneer98]

Somewhere early in this Cards winning streak, I was blasting music on my console stereo and had the game on mute, and they won. Whenever I've turned off the music and turned on the game feed bad things started happening. So I stopped doing that. You're welcome. Early in the winning streak it was often this album (I already posted 1 song from it in here):
https://open.spotify.com/album/2I0LPpmy ... l_branch=1

Another one has been this one from 2012. I saw the Pumpkins in concert on October 14, 2011, and they debuted several songs from this album at that concert. It was also the night of game 5 of the NLCS which the Cards won 7-1. It's just burned into my memory seeing a great concert and being like hell yeah and then checking the score and being like hell yeah.
https://open.spotify.com/album/4JSNpsxN ... l_branch=1