TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[33anda3rd]

I think one way it's better than L&O is that it's like 9 hours without commercials, and because it's something like thirteen and a half eps of L&O in length it can really take its time in the course of one case and develop characters and give us more nuance and detail and granular information about the criminal justice system. That was probably the biggest virtue of the show, that it took its time and went slow.

[stlouie_lipp]

I re-watched the finale last night because I had a pretty good buzz on Sunday night. I liked it even more watching it a second time. Nas seemed genuinely sad he didn't get a chance to say goodbye to Freddy. That shot were Nas turns around and sees him hitting the heavy bag all alone was, dare I say...touching?

[go birds]

my real beef is that the entire show revolved around the time in which Nas blacked out and when he woke up and the show failed to address that time frame.

Turturro based his entire closing argument on that missing time frame.

Personally, i think a montage of the events taking place while Nas sat on the rock smoking crack would have been top notch television.

Again i can appreciate deeper meanings in shows like this, but maybe address the what happened on THE NIGHT OF

[33anda3rd]

I think a show like this you have to judge it on what it's trying to do rather than what you want it to do. Their goal, IMO, was to make you ask yourself a lot of "what would I have done" questions. Like what would I have done in jail, were I Nas? What would I have done, were I his dad and getting pressure from the other cabbies. What would I have done, were I Box and on the cusp of retirement and trying to close out this last job? What would I have done, were I Chandra and Nas asked me to smuggle H into Rikers? I think they were more interested in that, than in giving us a whodunit that was tied up in the end, and I think they succeeded nicely at that.

[haltz]

my real beef is that the entire show revolved around the time in which Nas blacked out and when he woke up and the show failed to address that time frame.

The whole point of the show was encapsulated in the cross-examination of Nas during the last episode.

[SHOW]

He admitted that it could have been him because he learned that he was capable of anything in the right circumstances.

Humans aren't necessarily inherently good or evil, but life is a series of systems and choices that you make within those systems, that ultimately define you. Unfortunately, a lot of it is out of your control.

Nas isn't a murderer. We don't think he is. He doesn't think he is. He's probably not, but we're not sure because he isn't sure. Except that we're sure he is an accessory to murder in Rikers.

So while there's a strong indication that Nas didn't commit that particular crime that the trial is about, showing what actually happened would let the audience off the hook in terms of the theme that we all have the potential for good and evil and some of us are luckier than others circumstantially.

edit - sorry, that was pretty spoilery

[lukethedrifter]

I'm sort of split on The Night Of. Just watched the whole thing in three goes. The Freddie/Naz love story was a bit much for me. The one scene of Box and Helen in the stairwell might have been the worst single acted scene I've ever watched.
But I loved the freaking out, panicked, not knowing. I was a bundle of nerves. Probably because I have dreams where I find myself responsible for killing someone, then spend the dream trying to figure out if I should flee or turn myself in. As the dream evolves I don't actually know if I am responsible for murder at all. I always wake up totally shaken.

[Jocephus]

[planet planet]

Narcos Season 2 for the win!

[themiddle54]

"You're The Worst" on FXX or FFX of XFX or whatever that spinoff network is, is awesome and hilarious and rude and crass and honest. Binged through the first two seasons on iTunes Sunday and didn't regret wasting the day on it at all.

[cardinalkarp]

Narcos Season 2 for the win!

GREAT show.....took out Season 2 over the holiday weekend!