2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)

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pioneer98 wrote:Just when I think it can't get any mor insane ??
This is almost.everyday now. Yawn

. I agree though. Crazy [expletive]. Case closed.

And i don't care who us white boys are voting for president. It doesn't matter.

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pioneer98 wrote: So Trump will be in charge of what? NASA?

And did he offer Pence the same deal??????
Trump is in charge of making the impossible promises. It's up to all the best people he's going to hire to make them not happen.

His grand plan is to say "law and order" a bunch of times while offering zero ideas how to accomplish whatever that means. People might be dumb enough to buy it.

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cardsfansince82 wrote:
pioneer98 wrote: So Trump will be in charge of what? NASA?

And did he offer Pence the same deal??????
Trump is in charge of making the impossible promises. It's up to all the best people he's going to hire to make them not happen.

His grand plan is to say "law and order" a bunch of times while offering zero ideas how to accomplish whatever that means. People might be dumb enough to buy it.
Trump supporters should be furious. They didn't vote for Kasich, yet he's going to be the one actually running the country? And seriously you really have to wonder if Pence was offered something similar.

Sort of related: Kasich looks pretty smart for not attending this mess of a convention even though it was in his own state.

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I don't know if I'd praise not showing up. Seems to me that the obligation is to fight and oppose. Dissapearing because the situation is embarrassing is not so praiseworthy.

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“We’re disappointed that when it’s campaign season one thing is said and then when we watch them up on the Hill, it’s a different thing that is being talked about. I wouldn’t say we are just angry people. We feel a sense of betrayal,” Wilson said.

“Betrayal is a good word,” Ireland joined in. “I swear if you were to look at what the U.S. Senate and Congress have done since January 2015 ... you would not know that the Republicans were in charge.”
Well....you should feel betrayed because your leaders have not explained to you that controlling Congress doesn't mean they are in charge. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/how-tru ... ican-party

Also helps to explain this....

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Arthur Dent wrote:I don't know if I'd praise not showing up. Seems to me that the obligation is to fight and oppose. Dissapearing because the situation is embarrassing is not so praiseworthy.
I read that Kasich attended all kinds of events outside the convention and all around Cleveland but didn't actually set foot inside Quicken Loans Arena.

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ghostrunner wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism.
Oh please.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism.
Oh please.
I'd be interested in hearing any reasonable argument contradicting this.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:Not all Trump voters are racist. But a lot of racists are Trump voters.
All Trump voters are either ignoring or accepting racism.
Oh please.
At least include the reasoning
When he said Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, something which is objectively untrue, he intentionally courted racism and xenophobia. Whether or not Trump holds racist beliefs, he's deliberately playing to racists. I'm not sure there's even a difference. There's no need to go as far as parsing out dog whistles or guessing at what percentage of his supporters are racists. They're all choosing to look right past it

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At what point will the cognitive dissonance happen so quickly that the contradictory claims will happen in the same sentence?

http://bigstory.ap.org/d2b6f9de782e485eb3025ac7bed51013
Trump's call in his speech to the Republican National Convention for protecting the "LGBTQ community" was a watershed moment for the Republican Party — the first time the issue has been elevated in a GOP nomination address. Four years ago, Mitt Romney never uttered the word "gay," much less the full acronym — standing for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer or questioning.

But Trump, as if to drive the point home, said it not once, but twice.

"I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology," Trump said, adding for emphasis: "Believe me."

If Republican delegates gathered in Cleveland to nominate Trump were caught off-guard, they didn't show it. They cheered him — loudly.

Even the candidate seemed surprised.

"I have to say, as a Republican it is so nice to hear you cheering for what I just said," Trump ad-libbed. "Thank you."

The unequivocal appeal for a more inclusive tone is likely to give Trump's fellow Republicans permission to embrace an issue resonating deeply with a younger generation of voters from all sides of the political spectrum. It also puts Trump squarely at odds with the party platform adopted just three days earlier at his own nominating convention.

In fact, the GOP platform moves farther away from gay rights than past years, with a new admonition of gay parenting that says kids raised by a mother and father tend to be "physically and emotionally healthier." Preserved in the platform are opposition to gay marriage and to bathroom choice for transgender people.

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