2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)

[Cheddar Tom]

I haven't been watching but I know yesterday was Make America Safe Again and today was Make America Work Again. Can someone summarize all the policy proposals to accomplish this? I assume slavery was one.

The logical conclusion of Chris Christie's speech is to build a supermax that can hold Clinton.

[jim]

My biggest complaint is politicizing Benghazi....the plagiarism and asking Scott Baio to speak is just funny.

I admittedly didn't watch, but when has there ever been so much outrage at a specific person over a terrorist attack? Benghazi's jumped the shark IMO. Was there any/this much scrutiny into 9/11 and Bush's intelligence beforehand? I also don't know any true Hillary supporters personally (ie - they know her background and contributions well). Michael, care to step up? I really liked her in the 90's when she was the first to promote universal healthcare and she was instrumental and championed SCHIP, which provided healthcare for children above the poverty line.

No...and the fact that they have spent 2 nights talking about Benghazi/emails really exposes, IMO, that they have nothing to offer voters. Most conventions are trying to sell voters on the candidate....this convention has been about arresting Clinton. I am quite certain there are some reasonable conservatives out there....and I hope they send a message by voting for Gary Johnson.

Quite certain? Not positive? Allowing for the small possibility that none exist?

[cardsfansince82]

Fox can't fire Roger Ailes in the middle of the RNC, that would be a disaster. They should ask Ken Starr how to handle this.

[Schlich]

My biggest complaint is politicizing Benghazi....the plagiarism and asking Scott Baio to speak is just funny.

I admittedly didn't watch, but when has there ever been so much outrage at a specific person over a terrorist attack? Benghazi's jumped the shark IMO. Was there any/this much scrutiny into 9/11 and Bush's intelligence beforehand? I also don't know any true Hillary supporters personally (ie - they know her background and contributions well). Michael, care to step up? I really liked her in the 90's when she was the first to promote universal healthcare and she was instrumental and championed SCHIP, which provided healthcare for children above the poverty line.

No...and the fact that they have spent 2 nights talking about Benghazi/emails really exposes, IMO, that they have nothing to offer voters. Most conventions are trying to sell voters on the candidate....this convention has been about arresting Clinton. I am quite certain there are some reasonable conservatives out there....and I hope they send a message by voting for Gary Johnson.

Quite certain? Not positive? Allowing for the small possibility that none exist?

Jim's sarcasm meter is broke? What day is it?

[pioneer98]

I checked out Gary Johnson's stance on most issues. On social issues the only thing I really didn't like what he had to say was on school vouchers. Otherwise, I pretty much liked what I read. On economics, I'm struggling to see how he'd be different from some Tea Party extremist though. He wants to cut the federal budget by 43%. He seems open to cutting military spending. But 43% is still insane. I have a feeling we'd all get to experience what Kansas is going through right now. I totally understand voting for him as a protest against the other two parties though.

A few weeks ago on Bill Maher he mentioned cutting 20% of the budget BUT I think it may have just been the military spending at 20%.

I got the 43% number from this Wikipedia page, so it may be out of date. The citation they used for that quote is from 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... C_deficits

Budget, deficits
Johnson has said that the United States is heading toward an economic crisis similar to the 1998 Russian financial crisis, and that it can be stopped only by balancing the federal budget.[7][8] As such, he promised to submit a balanced budget for the year 2013 and promises to veto any bills containing expenditures in excess of revenues.[7] He promises to look at every decision as a cost-benefit analysis.[9] His budget would cut federal expenditures by 43% in every area, "across the board,"[7] including "responsible entitlement reform," because the "math is simple: federal spending must be cut not by millions or billions, but by trillions.". He calls the notion "that we can control spending and balance the budget without reforming Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security" "lunacy".[10] Johnson supports amending the U.S. Constitution to require an annual balanced budget.[11] Johnson opposes earmarks, and would veto any bills containing them.

I still say that Johnson would basically be like Ted Cruz on the economy except with less military spending - tax cuts especially for the rich. In the history of our country, not once have we tax-cut our way to prosperity.

[pioneer98]

Somewhat NSFW
100 Nude Women Protest Trump at the RNC

[ghostrunner]

Cheddar is completely right.

One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, who left the presidential race just a few weeks before. As a candidate, Kasich declared in March that Trump was “really not prepared to be president of the United States,” and the following month he took the highly unusual step of coordinating with his rival Senator Ted Cruz in an effort to deny Trump the nomination. But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.

The libertarians have two former two-term governors running. Then you have this guy who wants a title, and apparently Mike Pence in the Dick Cheney role.

Also, Kasich is a mensch. A shame he didn't win.

[ghostrunner]

Somewhat NSFW
100 Nude Women Protest Trump at the RNC

That gif of Putin and the nude protester comes to mind.

[BW23]

I haven't watched the RNC, and you can bet that I won't. However, are the biggest complaints so far about plagiarism and who has been invited to speak? Seriously?

The issue isn't the plagiarism but the way the campaign has handled it. That's what blew it up from a minor infraction to a huge story.

Okay. I guess that makes more sense. They all plagiarize. Obama did it frequently. Clinton has. I'm sure Bush did. I can't believe the speech writers actually do it, but I assume they all do anymore.

I do think asking some of the has-been actors/celebrities to talk is ridiculous, but stuff like that happens on both sides. There are always people on both sides that are invited to speak that shouldn't be there. The DNC will have its share, too.

[sighyoung]

I do think asking some of the has-been actors/celebrities to talk is ridiculous, but stuff like that happens on both sides. There are always people on both sides that are invited to speak that shouldn't be there. The DNC will have its share, too.

You'd think the return of the $100,000 Pyramid would have thinned the ranks of the C-list unemployed.