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I quit after Glenn and the dumpster. I wasn't ticked because he was likely alive, but just realized i didn't care.

There are so many interesting places the show could have gone by now, but it runs over the same themes again and again. Just a little dash of Zombieland would improve it so much.

I'm a little curious about the Negan story so I might tune back in for a couple episodes and see how it's going.

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i've never had that many complaints about the show and probably defended it more than critiqued it in the thread(s) here but yah i just kinda stopped caring.

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JL21 wrote:For TWD...
[SHOW]
-Carl got shot in the face, in the eye even, and didn't die

-That family that nobody cared about all very conveniently died but none of the major characters died (with one of them even being shot in the [expletive] face, for crying out loud)

-Glenn was surrounded by a billion zombies for like the 10th time now, only to be magically saved yet again

-Rick decided to rush out from a perfectly safe house and attack a horde of zombies, and then...

-everyone else decided it was a good idea so they did it too, and then...

-still nobody died

-And then Daryl becomes a magical unicorn superhero who swoops in at the last moment with a rocket launcher to save everyone...

-TWICE

-And the first time Daryl did it, it only worked because Negan's entire crew and the leader of Negan's crew was too busy giving a soliloquy about eating poop to notice or hear Daryl beating the [expletive] out of someone or see him come running up with a rocket launcher
They really need to kill someone soon, and stop saving people from absurd scenarios. I don't mind it every once in awhile but the frequency that they do it is beyond ridiculous. I thought it was one of the dumbest, worst, sloppiest, most inconceivably convenient episodes in years. And that's on top of the [expletive] at the end of last half season when you know who dumpstered his way out of absurd levels of danger. Like... a bad enough episode to make me think about giving up on the show altogether.
To be fair, on your first point, that also happens in the comics.

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If that's how it plays out, then they need to save those implausible things for when they happen, then. And not sprinkle other instances in several times a season.

I don't mind stretching the implausibility from time to time, but they really take it to an extreme.

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but zombies are fine? ha. (i'm teasing)

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I know you're teasing, but I'll give an honest answer. Basically as long as a show follows its own rules, I can roll with a lot, within reason. The rule from the outset is that it's the zombie apocalypse, so there you go.

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I'd guess that if I sat and thought about it, I could go back and count a good dozen times where characters on TWD inexplicably withhold or neglect to share important information. That's the sort of implausibility that ticks me off.

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JL21 wrote:If that's how it plays out, then they need to save those implausible things for when they happen, then. And not sprinkle other instances in several times a season.

I don't mind stretching the implausibility from time to time, but they really take it to an extreme.
I think you'll see some main characters (quite a few, actually) offed this season. Negan is basically the worst (most evil) villain from the comics.

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JL21 wrote:I know you're teasing, but I'll give an honest answer. Basically as long as a show follows its own rules, I can roll with a lot, within reason. The rule from the outset is that it's the zombie apocalypse, so there you go.
no, i got you, for sure. it reminded me of a review of one of TMNT formats and the reviewer was complaining about some implausible thing in that world but said "but i can accept there are 4 giant ninja turtles in manhattan".

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JL21 wrote:For TWD...
[SHOW]
-Carl got shot in the face, in the eye even, and didn't die

-That family that nobody cared about all very conveniently died but none of the major characters died (with one of them even being shot in the [expletive] face, for crying out loud)

-Glenn was surrounded by a billion zombies for like the 10th time now, only to be magically saved yet again

-Rick decided to rush out from a perfectly safe house and attack a horde of zombies, and then...

-everyone else decided it was a good idea so they did it too, and then...

-still nobody died

-And then Daryl becomes a magical unicorn superhero who swoops in at the last moment with a rocket launcher to save everyone...

-TWICE

-And the first time Daryl did it, it only worked because Negan's entire crew and the leader of Negan's crew was too busy giving a soliloquy about eating poop to notice or hear Daryl beating the [expletive] out of someone or see him come running up with a rocket launcher
They really need to kill someone soon, and stop saving people from absurd scenarios. I don't mind it every once in awhile but the frequency that they do it is beyond ridiculous. I thought it was one of the dumbest, worst, sloppiest, most inconceivably convenient episodes in years. And that's on top of the [expletive] at the end of last half season when you know who dumpstered his way out of absurd levels of danger. Like... a bad enough episode to make me think about giving up on the show altogether.
[SHOW]
I share a lot of the same problems with the show...a lot of people do. The whole Glenn thing was ridiculous, and everyone shares that viewpoint. Glenn escaping zombies due to the dumpster drove the show to a new low. It was weak writing in a show of weak writing to drag on a storyline. That has always been a complaint of mine...dragging the story out...but I was happy to see the Alexandria family get eaten.

I still have no idea why they tried to lure the zombies out of the quarry. It seems like that would be the perfect spot to lure a bunch of zombies, chuck a few grenades every month, wash, rinse, repeat...all they had to do was reinforce the cars (which the apparently had a ton of cars to line the streets).

My wife, who has read the comics, was really excited for Negan...and I think our lust of main cast deaths will be coming true sooner rather than later. I hope.

A few friends of ours started a Walking Dead Fantasy Football-like league...we had to pick who was going to die this season. I picked as many Alexandrians as possible. It definitely adds to the watch party experience...rooting for characters to die.

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