cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
They had a vigil, I think, and take back the night marches don't exactly make the news.
The reason there are protests for cops is unlike criminals, you don't expect them to kill people. Not saying it wasn't justified in Brown's case, but the problem is the general behavior and accountability of people who are supposed to protect you.
cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
I posted this on my facebook page today. Thought it might help clear some things up for you.
With the recent police shooting of the 18 year old black male on Page and the terrible shooting death of the 9 year old girl near the same area happening earlier this week, I have noticed lots of the usual ugliness that has been so pervasive the last year.
Lots of people are using the tragic death of the 9 year old to belittle the #BlackLivesMatter movement, saying things like “Why aren’t you protesting for HER instead??? Until blacks stop shooting blacks, your BLM movement means nothing and will fall on deaf ears!”
For these people, I’d like to clear something up.
These two events are completely different. It is disingenuous to use one to belittle the other. Of course the murder of this beautiful little girl is senseless, tragic and horrific.
We protest police abuse, corruption and systemic institutional racism because the oppressed need the voice of the unoppressed to make the oppression stop. Without us, the oppression just continues unchecked.
When it comes to black on black crime, or any violent crime for that matter, the way to stop it is through social change. Violent crime exists because people are desperate and hopeless. They feel completely disenfranchised. They feel powerless to end their own suffering. So they resort to crime and violence. Does it make it right? Of course not. But if you can put yourself in their situation, even for a moment, you can begin to see why they might resort to crime. I have two young kids. If they were starving and I had no other means to feed them, I think I’d be capable of a lot of things too. Would I shoot someone? Probably not, but I don’t know for sure until I have actually been in that situation. So, as outsiders, how do we help stop it? We enact social change. We fight for better education. We try to teach job skills. We build a stronger social safety net. We offer any kind of support we can, including sympathy and tears of sorrow for the senseless loss of life – like that sweet little girl. But do you think that in their time of suffering, the families that lose their loved ones to violence want to see a bunch of BLM activists on the street chanting and holding signs? I’m guessing not. I think it would come across insensitive and patronizing at the very least.
So, you anti-BLM folks can just stop it with the bull [expletive].
Thanks.
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cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
I posted this on my facebook page today. Thought it might help clear some things up for you.
With the recent police shooting of the 18 year old black male on Page and the terrible shooting death of the 9 year old girl near the same area happening earlier this week, I have noticed lots of the usual ugliness that has been so pervasive the last year.
Lots of people are using the tragic death of the 9 year old to belittle the #BlackLivesMatter movement, saying things like “Why aren’t you protesting for HER instead??? Until blacks stop shooting blacks, your BLM movement means nothing and will fall on deaf ears!”
For these people, I’d like to clear something up.
These two events are completely different. It is disingenuous to use one to belittle the other. Of course the murder of this beautiful little girl is senseless, tragic and horrific.
We protest police abuse, corruption and systemic institutional racism because the oppressed need the voice of the unoppressed to make the oppression stop. Without us, the oppression just continues unchecked.
When it comes to black on black crime, or any violent crime for that matter, the way to stop it is through social change. Violent crime exists because people are desperate and hopeless. They feel completely disenfranchised. They feel powerless to end their own suffering. So they resort to crime and violence. Does it make it right? Of course not. But if you can put yourself in their situation, even for a moment, you can begin to see why they might resort to crime. I have two young kids. If they were starving and I had no other means to feed them, I think I’d be capable of a lot of things too. Would I shoot someone? Probably not, but I don’t know for sure until I have actually been in that situation. So, as outsiders, how do we help stop it? We enact social change. We fight for better education. We try to teach job skills. We build a stronger social safety net. We offer any kind of support we can, including sympathy and tears of sorrow for the senseless loss of life – like that sweet little girl. But do you think that in their time of suffering, the families that lose their loved ones to violence want to see a bunch of BLM activists on the street chanting and holding signs? I’m guessing not. I think it would come across insensitive and patronizing at the very least.
So, you anti-BLM folks can just stop it with the bull [expletive].
Thanks.
Sure, I can completely understand not protesting the "Black Lives Matter" movement out on the streets for the little girl as it could come across as insensitive....although, I'm not sure you've done anything to convince me that not protesting the murder of an innocent little girl, and instead protest the killing of an armed man, which happened to run and point a weapon at the police is a better choice in which to put their focus.
cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
I posted this on my facebook page today. Thought it might help clear some things up for you.
With the recent police shooting of the 18 year old black male on Page and the terrible shooting death of the 9 year old girl near the same area happening earlier this week, I have noticed lots of the usual ugliness that has been so pervasive the last year.
Lots of people are using the tragic death of the 9 year old to belittle the #BlackLivesMatter movement, saying things like “Why aren’t you protesting for HER instead??? Until blacks stop shooting blacks, your BLM movement means nothing and will fall on deaf ears!”
For these people, I’d like to clear something up.
These two events are completely different. It is disingenuous to use one to belittle the other. Of course the murder of this beautiful little girl is senseless, tragic and horrific.
We protest police abuse, corruption and systemic institutional racism because the oppressed need the voice of the unoppressed to make the oppression stop. Without us, the oppression just continues unchecked.
When it comes to black on black crime, or any violent crime for that matter, the way to stop it is through social change. Violent crime exists because people are desperate and hopeless. They feel completely disenfranchised. They feel powerless to end their own suffering. So they resort to crime and violence. Does it make it right? Of course not. But if you can put yourself in their situation, even for a moment, you can begin to see why they might resort to crime. I have two young kids. If they were starving and I had no other means to feed them, I think I’d be capable of a lot of things too. Would I shoot someone? Probably not, but I don’t know for sure until I have actually been in that situation. So, as outsiders, how do we help stop it? We enact social change. We fight for better education. We try to teach job skills. We build a stronger social safety net. We offer any kind of support we can, including sympathy and tears of sorrow for the senseless loss of life – like that sweet little girl. But do you think that in their time of suffering, the families that lose their loved ones to violence want to see a bunch of BLM activists on the street chanting and holding signs? I’m guessing not. I think it would come across insensitive and patronizing at the very least.
So, you anti-BLM folks can just stop it with the bull [expletive].
Thanks.
Sure, I can completely understand not protesting the "Black Lives Matter" movement out on the streets for the little girl as it could come across as insensitive....although, I'm not sure you've done anything to convince me that not protesting the murder of an innocent little girl, and instead protest the killing of an armed man, which happened to run and point a weapon at the police is a better choice in which to put their focus.
Justified or not in that instance, the black community has ZERO reason to trust the judicial system and police. They have suffered abuse after abuse after abuse. Tell me why they shouldn't be alarmed that another young black man was killed when the very same day a white man threatened AND assaulted police and was taken into custody instead of being shot immediately. Tell me why they should trust the system any more??? It is VERY broken and if something isn't done VERY SOON, we're going to have another civil war on our hands.
cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
I posted this on my facebook page today. Thought it might help clear some things up for you.
With the recent police shooting of the 18 year old black male on Page and the terrible shooting death of the 9 year old girl near the same area happening earlier this week, I have noticed lots of the usual ugliness that has been so pervasive the last year.
Lots of people are using the tragic death of the 9 year old to belittle the #BlackLivesMatter movement, saying things like “Why aren’t you protesting for HER instead??? Until blacks stop shooting blacks, your BLM movement means nothing and will fall on deaf ears!”
For these people, I’d like to clear something up.
These two events are completely different. It is disingenuous to use one to belittle the other. Of course the murder of this beautiful little girl is senseless, tragic and horrific.
We protest police abuse, corruption and systemic institutional racism because the oppressed need the voice of the unoppressed to make the oppression stop. Without us, the oppression just continues unchecked.
When it comes to black on black crime, or any violent crime for that matter, the way to stop it is through social change. Violent crime exists because people are desperate and hopeless. They feel completely disenfranchised. They feel powerless to end their own suffering. So they resort to crime and violence. Does it make it right? Of course not. But if you can put yourself in their situation, even for a moment, you can begin to see why they might resort to crime. I have two young kids. If they were starving and I had no other means to feed them, I think I’d be capable of a lot of things too. Would I shoot someone? Probably not, but I don’t know for sure until I have actually been in that situation. So, as outsiders, how do we help stop it? We enact social change. We fight for better education. We try to teach job skills. We build a stronger social safety net. We offer any kind of support we can, including sympathy and tears of sorrow for the senseless loss of life – like that sweet little girl. But do you think that in their time of suffering, the families that lose their loved ones to violence want to see a bunch of BLM activists on the street chanting and holding signs? I’m guessing not. I think it would come across insensitive and patronizing at the very least.
So, you anti-BLM folks can just stop it with the bull [expletive].
Thanks.
Sure, I can completely understand not protesting the "Black Lives Matter" movement out on the streets for the little girl as it could come across as insensitive....although, I'm not sure you've done anything to convince me that not protesting the murder of an innocent little girl, and instead protest the killing of an armed man, which happened to run and point a weapon at the police is a better choice in which to put their focus.
Justified or not in that instance, the black community has ZERO reason to trust the judicial system and police. They have suffered abuse after abuse after abuse. Tell me why they shouldn't be alarmed that another young black man was killed when the very same day a white man threatened AND assaulted police and was taken into custody instead of being shot immediately. Tell me why they should trust the system any more??? It is VERY broken and if something isn't done VERY SOON, we're going to have another civil war on our hands.
I think you're lumping "black community" into a group they might not want to be lumped into....what makes you think everyone in the black community doesn't trust the police force and judicial system?
While I'll agree, some of what I see the police doing these days I do have to question if it was the best thing to do.....BUT, much of what is portrayed in the media is ONLY these cases and done to incite situations like we see now.
This white man you speak of...did he have a gun?...did he point it at the officers??....because if so I would fully expect him to be shot as well (and he likely would have been). Black or white, if you run from the police after pointing a weapon at them...guess what, good chance you'll wind up dead.
But the protesting for dangerous armed criminals that happen to be killed after doing dangerous criminal acts needs to stop. It's not doing any good for either side.
cardsfantx wrote:not to mention a 9 year old little girl was killed in ferguson while doing homework on her bed and someone (or more than one) shot bullets through her house at close range.
I posted this on my facebook page today. Thought it might help clear some things up for you.
With the recent police shooting of the 18 year old black male on Page and the terrible shooting death of the 9 year old girl near the same area happening earlier this week, I have noticed lots of the usual ugliness that has been so pervasive the last year.
Lots of people are using the tragic death of the 9 year old to belittle the #BlackLivesMatter movement, saying things like “Why aren’t you protesting for HER instead??? Until blacks stop shooting blacks, your BLM movement means nothing and will fall on deaf ears!”
For these people, I’d like to clear something up.
These two events are completely different. It is disingenuous to use one to belittle the other. Of course the murder of this beautiful little girl is senseless, tragic and horrific.
We protest police abuse, corruption and systemic institutional racism because the oppressed need the voice of the unoppressed to make the oppression stop. Without us, the oppression just continues unchecked.
When it comes to black on black crime, or any violent crime for that matter, the way to stop it is through social change. Violent crime exists because people are desperate and hopeless. They feel completely disenfranchised. They feel powerless to end their own suffering. So they resort to crime and violence. Does it make it right? Of course not. But if you can put yourself in their situation, even for a moment, you can begin to see why they might resort to crime. I have two young kids. If they were starving and I had no other means to feed them, I think I’d be capable of a lot of things too. Would I shoot someone? Probably not, but I don’t know for sure until I have actually been in that situation. So, as outsiders, how do we help stop it? We enact social change. We fight for better education. We try to teach job skills. We build a stronger social safety net. We offer any kind of support we can, including sympathy and tears of sorrow for the senseless loss of life – like that sweet little girl. But do you think that in their time of suffering, the families that lose their loved ones to violence want to see a bunch of BLM activists on the street chanting and holding signs? I’m guessing not. I think it would come across insensitive and patronizing at the very least.
So, you anti-BLM folks can just stop it with the bull [expletive].
Thanks.
Sure, I can completely understand not protesting the "Black Lives Matter" movement out on the streets for the little girl as it could come across as insensitive....although, I'm not sure you've done anything to convince me that not protesting the murder of an innocent little girl, and instead protest the killing of an armed man, which happened to run and point a weapon at the police is a better choice in which to put their focus.
Justified or not in that instance, the black community has ZERO reason to trust the judicial system and police. They have suffered abuse after abuse after abuse. Tell me why they shouldn't be alarmed that another young black man was killed when the very same day a white man threatened AND assaulted police and was taken into custody instead of being shot immediately. Tell me why they should trust the system any more??? It is VERY broken and if something isn't done VERY SOON, we're going to have another civil war on our hands.
I think you're lumping "black community" into a group they might not want to be lumped into....what makes you think everyone in the black community doesn't trust the police force and judicial system?
While I'll agree, some of what I see the police doing these days I do have to question if it was the best thing to do.....BUT, much of what is portrayed in the media is ONLY these cases and done to incite situations like we see now.
This white man you speak of...did he have a gun?...did he point it at the officers??....because if so I would fully expect him to be shot as well (and he likely would have been). Black or white, if you run from the police after pointing a weapon at them...guess what, good chance you'll wind up dead.
But the protesting for dangerous armed criminals that happen to be killed after doing dangerous criminal acts needs to stop. It's not doing any good for either side.
