Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

[Schlich]

I'm not even going to contest the fact that it's a media created [expletive] storm. It completely is. For a completely good reason: taking the stances that Tony Dungy takes is unacceptable. He's paying the "consequences," if you can even call it that, for his words. If one is going to play the martyr card, at least play the part.

[Socnorb11]

Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with building a football team.

I'm pretty firmly against the Republican party right now......... but if I were trying to build the best football team and the best players were Republicans, I wouldn't give a second thought to drafting them. Would you?

Tony Dungy is against adultery, too.............. but that doesn't mean that he expects all of his players to be monogamous in order to be on his team.


You're REALLY stretching to connect dots here, trill.

[cardsfansince82]

I don't believe that Dungy's comments were motivated by his faith. I think he was speaking from a football perspective, and only a football perspective. Maybe we'll never agree on that. Fine.

I'm not sure how you can reach that conclusion if Dungy himself said Sam belongs in the league.

[Jocephus]

when did the tampa tribune interview take place?

this dispatch article says the winfrey show was cancelled on 5/16

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football ... b0bf0.html

im confused, the tribune writer waited 2+ months to write the article?

[Socnorb11]

It's impossible for his faith to not play a role in every opinion he holds or decision he makes if it is as important to him as he claims it is. Therefore, even if he's trying to be objective, it's impossible.

See, I completely disagree with this. Maybe I'm a bad Christian, but my Christianity has NO impact on most of the business decisions that I make on a daily basis. Seriously........ none.

Despite all of this, as a grown adult who understands nuance and that the world isn't black and white, I'm sure Tony Dungy is a great person. He's probably kind and generous 99% of the time. That doesn't get him off the hook on this issue.

Sure. You're absolutely entitled to disagree with his stance on gay marriage. I just disagree that there is a connection between that and his mindset when building a football team. I think that's the crux of our disagreement.

[haltz]

I don't believe that Dungy's comments were motivated by his faith. I think he was speaking from a football perspective, and only a football perspective. Maybe we'll never agree on that. Fine.

I'm not sure how you can reach that conclusion if Dungy himself said Sam belongs in the league.

Right. That's how he basically said he'd draft him if he was straight. The determining variable is his sexuality. And the morally correct stance would be to give someone a chance who's part of an oppressed class.

[Socnorb11]

I don't believe that Dungy's comments were motivated by his faith. I think he was speaking from a football perspective, and only a football perspective. Maybe we'll never agree on that. Fine.

I'm not sure how you can reach that conclusion if Dungy himself said Sam belongs in the league.

I'm not following you.

[cardsfansince82]

I don't believe that Dungy's comments were motivated by his faith. I think he was speaking from a football perspective, and only a football perspective. Maybe we'll never agree on that. Fine.

I'm not sure how you can reach that conclusion if Dungy himself said Sam belongs in the league.

I'm not following you.

It's not a football perspective if the football perspective says he's a worthy player.

[Socnorb11]

when did the tampa tribune interview take place?

this dispatch article says the winfrey show was cancelled on 5/16

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football ... b0bf0.html

im confused, the tribune writer waited 2+ months to write the article?

The interview was months ago.

[Jocephus]

when did the tampa tribune interview take place?

this dispatch article says the winfrey show was cancelled on 5/16

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football ... b0bf0.html

im confused, the tribune writer waited 2+ months to write the article?

The interview was months ago.

do you know when specifically?